Has anyone had the New Albion yet?

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  1. DrinkSlurm

    DrinkSlurm Poo-Bah (1,817) Oct 3, 2007 New York

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  2. Robtobfest

    Robtobfest Disciple (367) Oct 21, 2009 Connecticut
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    Just picked up a 6 pack today . Going to try it tonight.
  3. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    not seen it yet! wish it was here. I enjoy the simple english ales and porters. I wish I could remember the originals, but it been too long...simple plain porter is all my old brain tells me. what did they come out with first?
  4. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,280) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Really nice bit of film there. Thanks for posting the link.
  5. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    i looked on the sam adams web site and i could not the beer listed, what style is out first? thanks!
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Think he released all three of his initial beers at the same time - Ale, Porter and Stout. All with the same label design. He started production in Aug., 1976. Retailed for 95¢ to $1.05 "...making them probably the most expensive produced in the U.S...." according to The Brewers Digest (11/79).
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  7. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    sorry I was not clear? i was really asking which beer is sa making first. my bad i was not clear here. thanks for that, its why I said Sam adams web site.... I do not think they sell any here yet, so I was curious which style is being rereleased???

    also sorry using new iPad & my typing sucks
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Just coming out now, so it probably hasn't hit every market but reports say "nationwide". Everything I've read suggests it's a one-time release of just the New Albion Ale, but if it's successful, who knows.


    I *think* the story is that Koch claimed the trademark in the '90's (to prevent it from being mis-used by another brewery, he said) and for the trademark to be maintained they had to use it commercially.
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  9. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    too bad no porter or stout, oh well. ale will been a nice treat.
  10. TheLostGringo

    TheLostGringo Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2011 Connecticut
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    Very cool story, will need to give it a try.
  11. MLucky

    MLucky Aspirant (286) Jul 31, 2010 California

    I think "re-releasing" this beer is a great project, and hats off to Boston Brewing for honoring Jack McAuliffe. But I wouldn't expect anything amazing from the beer. They printed the recipe in one of the homebrewing mags (Brew Your Own, I think) and judging by that this is going to be a fairly modest pale ale, with lower gravity, IBUs, and ABV than what a lot of craft beer drinkers might expect these days. I'm not saying it won't be good, but don't expect to be blown away.
  12. fehrminator

    fehrminator Disciple (359) Jan 26, 2008 North Carolina
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    To answer the question, it's the pale ale.
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  13. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    true but a the time it was so special.....I guess I am weird but i like these simple ales.
  14. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Just called New Albion Ale on everything I've found, as it was originally (and noted above) - no "pale".

    Only "ale" was pretty typical of the era (Ballantine Ale, Rainier Ale, etc), even Anchor's Liberty Ale has no other descriptor term.

  15. airforbes1

    airforbes1 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2010 California

    As a fan of English-style pale ales, I'll definitely try to find this somewhere. It could be fun having one of these and a bottle of Anchor Steam Beer, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, and Samuel Adams Boston Lager in a single evening. Respect your elders!
  16. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,367) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    F'in' Brilliant! I think I'll join you in that time capsule, maybe listening to the Damned while I'm there...
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  17. dbert21

    dbert21 Aspirant (212) Jun 20, 2012 Ohio
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    Just picked up a 6 pack at Jungle Jims in Fairfield Ohio (Cincinnati)...Haven't tried it yet but can't wait. Very cool story.
  18. jmich24

    jmich24 Devotee (454) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

  19. herrburgess

    herrburgess Meyvn (1,044) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I, for one, have reached the point where I am blown away when I can find a U.S. "craft" beer that prizes subtlety over mind/tongue-numbingly extreme flavor blasts.

    Just saw this beer in my local bottle shop earlier this evening. Plan to pick some up tomorrow.
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  20. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,566) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Looking forward to this one whenever I see it.
  21. NiceFly

    NiceFly Aspirant (289) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Basic Brewing Radio did 2 interviews with Jack that are very good. 10/30/2012 for the New Albion Ale and 5/9/2012 for a bit of history on the brewery. Very interesting interviews, especially the one in May.
  22. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    This, from the above:
    seems to contradict somewhat this comment by BBC brewer Dean Giancostas: (from A Legend Returns: New Albion):
    and we wonder how so much beer history from 50, 100 or 200 years ago can be so contradictory and confusing. :wink:
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  23. dowab

    dowab Initiate (129) Nov 24, 2005 Ohio

    I was luck enough to have some at last years Great American Beer Festival. Simply a good pale ale.
  24. JimKal

    JimKal Zealot (514) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    Actually, I think there are a lot of BAs that agree with you. Perhaps because I'm older than many on this site I really prefer something that I can enjoy but has a lower ABV bill. I'm looking forward to finding some New Albion.
  25. Robtobfest

    Robtobfest Disciple (367) Oct 21, 2009 Connecticut
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    Tried this last night. Solid pale. Hoppier than i thought it would be. Tastes suspiciously like a sweeter boston lager! Good piece of history here and a easy drinking brew.
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  26. bluejacket74

    bluejacket74 Poo-Bah (4,403) Jul 4, 2005 Ohio
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    I'm looking forward to trying this one. I picked up a 6-pack this morning, so I'll drink a bottle or 2 later today.
  27. breweski15

    breweski15 Aspirant (208) Jul 13, 2009 Michigan

    Am drinking one as I type this...a pretty solid pale ale, very balanced and enjoyable. Kind of wishing I bought more than 2 bottles of it today.
  28. bigflatsbeerman

    bigflatsbeerman Aspirant (242) Nov 2, 2005 New York

    I believe Michael Jackson interviews the starters of New Albion in his Beer Hunter series, the episode shot in California. This is great to see and I would love to try it.
  29. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Got a link to that? The California episode that I recall was mostly centered around Maytag and Anchor. They did stop into the Hopland brewpub (which evolved into Mendocino Brewing Co.) so that would have been after New Albion closed (some of the brewers and equipment, IIRC, from NA wound up at Hopland).

    The chronology wouldn't be right either, since The Beer Hunter series seem to have been filmed in the late '80's, so after New Albion's demise - not that an interview with McAuliffe couldn't have been done after that, of course, and it would be interesting to see his thought so soon after closing.
  30. ventura78

    ventura78 Aspirant (270) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    He did interview them in the california segment. I've watched that about 100 times. Someone posted the segment in 3 parts on youtube, but the interview is missing between the above segment and the start of 3. They were not in business at the time
  31. kennyo

    kennyo Devotee (462) Jan 30, 2003 New York
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    picked up a six last night, had 3 bottles of it, nice pale ale. I assume this might have been an extreme beer back in 1976
  32. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Yeah, that's why I asked for a link, since I've never been able to find it but had dim memories of it - when it was shown on US TV? Or maybe I've only read about? I might have only seen the show on PBS since I might not have had cable at the time and have never been able to find that on the 'net. I guess I always figured that what I recalled wasn't part of the Beer Hunter series since the chronology didn't "work". Being edited out of that episode (for whatever reason - and maybe only for Dutch TV?) would be the explanation.

    By "they" are you talking McAuliffe and ? -- His partner at the brewery was a Suzanne Stern, but some of his other workers wound up at Hopland, correct?
  33. ventura78

    ventura78 Aspirant (270) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    Just found a clip of the interview, I always thought the 2 people in this clip started new albion. But their names are michael levette and don barkley.

    start at about 16.00 on this clip and you will see them talking.
  34. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Yeah, both of them worked at New Albion (well, a Michael Lovett did- I'm guessing it's the same guy?). I've got an article from 1980 with pics of both them- Barclay's listed there as NA's "plant general manager". Will post if interested.
  35. ventura78

    ventura78 Aspirant (270) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    Ya, I would like to see that. I think it is the same guy, Lovett, it was a bit hard to tell what Jackson was saying.
  36. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Just added the entire short article to the bottom of my New Albion page.

    Yeah, that's what I figured, too.
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  37. BrainGrenades

    BrainGrenades Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2011 California

    Anyone know where the heck I can get this in San Diego? Been calling around to a few bottle shops and surprisingly nobody has it.
  38. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    Not to long ago many did not, but things are always changing.

    I can really appreciate any beer that has any taste above a BMC.

    That said I always preferred beers that tried to have a balance to them. Not saying that if you like hops for hops sake that they are wrong but to me it ruins the beers. NA did this back then. Somewhere along the way more hops somehow equaled better beer? NOT TO me. I really think Craft will never rise about 6% or so of the market with extreme beers. But of course that is just my 2 cents.
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  39. Pegli

    Pegli Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2006 Rhode Island

    Picked up two sixers on Saturday and can't stop drinking it...I'm going to hoard this like most BAers do with bourbon barrel-aged imperial stouts.
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