Heady Topper in SoCal

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by jamvt, Mar 22, 2013.

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  1. MoistPope

    MoistPope Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 California

    Besides breaking California ABC rules, I personally see it as being unethical and morally backwards. If a shop doesn't care for rules everyone else plays by, who knows what other laws they break without care for repercussions.

    I have the same feeling towards stores who do beer tasting without obtaining the proper license.
     
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  2. Crawfordesquire

    Crawfordesquire Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2011 California
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    Not from NH to MA
     
  3. PeterJ

    PeterJ Initiate (69) Dec 5, 2012 California

    I'm willing to bet that Bootleggers asked them to put that display up.
     
  4. MoistPope

    MoistPope Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 California

    Not sure if that makes it any better. :astonished:
     
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  5. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Zealot (532) Jan 7, 2013 California
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    I sure hope you don't like to trade beers. I mean, besides breaking federal laws....

    Not to mention I hope you don't go over the speed limit. Besides breaking California driving laws, who knows what other criminal activities you would be associated if you were actively speeding on America's highways.
     
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  6. MoistPope

    MoistPope Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 California

    I see your point but what my point is that it creates an unfair competitive advantage.

    And yes I speed along with everyone else on LA's freeways. :slight_smile:
     
  7. kotayk

    kotayk Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    Capitalism
    #merica
     
  8. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Zealot (532) Jan 7, 2013 California
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    MoistPope meet Capitalism. Capitalism, this is MoistPope.

    Unfair competitive advantage? That's business as usual.
     
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  9. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2006 California

    I like all the BA armchair loblaws who think they know everything about beer laws as a reason for/against shopping at Bev4Less....when a rational person goes in that store they should know the reasons to walk out within the first 2 minutes.

    Also, any return customers buying a $10 IPA there deserve what they get.
     
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  10. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 California
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    Not into Utah.
     
  11. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    This is a point that I tried to make earlier, but not nearly as clearly. It bears repeating over and over.
     
  12. HoppyLuckyGoGo

    HoppyLuckyGoGo Aspirant (238) Apr 2, 2012 California
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    Amen to that! Where can I report trader's on this site who want $100 worth of beer for a bottle that cost 25 when it first comes out.
    LoL.
    This sounds like the whole ebay debate again.
     
  13. peteinSD

    peteinSD Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2010 California

    how is this all that different than trading for the beer?
     
  14. JISurfer

    JISurfer Poo-Bah (1,659) Dec 10, 2002 South Carolina
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    I've got some 'shine from VA, which is known as some of the best. Wanna trade some West Coast hopiness for it? 8)
     
  15. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    You can report them. If you feel like it.

    Stupid people buy Heady Topper from a person online who sells it out of his shitty store in Santee for who only knows how much.

    #fuckthelakers
     
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  16. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    Nobody in this thread that has defended that store in Santee has ever been there. They are defending the concept, the principle of it. I think they should be forced to go there and buy Whales, or concede the argument.
     
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  17. Obsidian

    Obsidian Aspirant (214) Dec 9, 2012 California

    He has Heady in now. I just did an online order via email. The Heady is $10.99, I would hardly call that price gouging considering he is (apparently) the only guy in SoCal who gets it.

    He emailed me a tracking # and called for payment, said it will ship in the morning. I would say it is a very smooth transaction at this point ... will update when I receive the beer.

    Shipping & packing is $32 for 6 beers which seems a bit steep, but 1 1/2 hours from Orange County and back in a 370Z would use up about that much gas anyway I suppose.
     
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  18. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    You make me laugh...thanks I needed that. You understand he gets it through others he knows? He then takes it and sells it online illegally. Enjoy :slight_smile:
     
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  19. Obsidian

    Obsidian Aspirant (214) Dec 9, 2012 California

    I'm glad. Yeah he even mentioned this thread when I talked to him ... had some interesting things to say about some of the haters in this thread ... which made me laugh.

    Anyway I'm about the beer, don't care much about the haters, drama, and internet politics of it all.
     
  20. Xul

    Xul Crusader (762) May 18, 2008 California

    Poor Freddy just wants to be loved. :slight_frown:
     
  21. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    And he's laughing to the bank.
     
  22. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Is that why Bevmo is suing him???
     
  23. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2006 California

    .....in Santee
     
  24. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    Plenty of people here who haven't read my earlier comments in this thread I see. That wasn't a positive statement, in any way.
     
  25. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Devotee (475) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Why don't you just trade for it? You can get fresher beer, possibly develop a good trading relationship, and help someone in the Northeast get some West Coast goodness while you get yours as well. A 4-pack of Heady costs in the realm of $12-$15 so yeah I would think your rear end is feeling sore at the moment.
     
  26. bird22

    bird22 Disciple (358) Jan 2, 2011 California
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    That would be $98 to ship a six pack of Heady. You wouldn't call that price gouging? Wow. I'll stick to trading Pliny for it.
     
  27. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    It's not only about Internet politics. I've had three different people that I've met in three different places (Hess, Toronado, Green Flash) tell me in the midst of discussing where we got beer to avoid Bev4Less at all costs - and this was information that was volunteered without me asking about the place. Most of the San Diego beer community think this guy is a flim flam man.
     
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  28. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Again...he he just wants to be loved :slight_smile:
     
  29. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,170) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Story?
     
  30. Stroso

    Stroso Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2006 New Mexico

    What's the secret to trading for HT at under $10/can? With everything included my trade came out to $14.5/can, of course we don't really have any heavy hitters to trade, but still. At this point, paying $10/can seems like a steal.
     
  31. imyourhero21

    imyourhero21 Devotee (489) Oct 9, 2011 California
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    The key is to just make great trading partners or find someone who bought alot more then they thought they would need and wanna trade. Recently traded a melange 3 for 9 headys. Well worth it.
     
  32. Obsidian

    Obsidian Aspirant (214) Dec 9, 2012 California

    My order from Fred arrived this morning with no issues whatsoever. We finalized the order Monday at 9:30 PM and received Wednesday at 10:30 AM.

    Just to shoot down some of the misinformation in this thread ....

    His packaging is solid, two rows of protection between beers and an extra layer of packing. The box is clearly labeled as fragile and containing alcohol.

    All my beers with a bottle date are fresh ... the Pliny was bottled 04/17/13 which is about the freshest I have ever gotten it.

    Other than the Heady at $10.99, his prices are right in line with my local wine shop, and about a buck more per beer than Total Wine & More.

    Whether he is doing something illegal or not is speculation. I have a hard time believing he would post Heady to his Facebook, his website and his email newsletter if there was a chance of him losing his license. It's not like he is doing backroom deals, it's all very upfront.

    All I can say is I am very pleased with my transaction. Will definitely buy more rare beer from him in the future. A friend of mine in L.A. also ordered Heady, and should be receiving it today. I will post if he has any problems with his order. Heady is chilling right now, will drink it tonight.

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  33. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Devotee (475) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    What misinformation are you shooting down?
     
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  34. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    Sweet summer child.
     
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  35. LOCAL

    LOCAL Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2006 New Hampshire

    11 bucks to try a beer that you might not other wise get to try if you're not into trading seems fair enough to me. Personally, I could care less if its legit or not.
     
  36. jamex

    jamex Aspirant (244) Feb 13, 2010 California

    Can someone PM me a reputable trader for fresh Heady? Thanks.
     
  37. DrunkenMonk

    DrunkenMonk Disciple (319) Jun 2, 2012 California

    I dont know the legalities. What makes it illegal? Or is it more of a breach of contract with someone? Is the higher price retail plus shipping added to create pull to the store, the item being a loss leader to attract more shoppers?

    Im just curious. It would appear they buy it retail and sell it at retail plus just to have something special in their shop. Its not profitable, but why is it bad?
     
  38. DrunkenMonk

    DrunkenMonk Disciple (319) Jun 2, 2012 California

    Ive never witnessed any beer having been delivered on a refrigerated truck. The trucks ive seen have been at air teperature, even on hot days.
     
  39. Xul

    Xul Crusader (762) May 18, 2008 California

    1) Beers sold in California must be registered with the ABC.
    2) Beers sold in California must be purchased by retailers from a licensed distributor (except CA breweries which have the option of self-distributing within the state).

    Since Heady Topper has no distribution out here, #2 is obviously not being followed, and I would assume the beer has not been registered with the CA ABC.

    I would suspect that it is profitable. Perhaps not extremely profitable, but he wouldn't bother with it if it didn't make money. I know "Freddy loves taking care of his customers," but c'mon, he's in it to make money. He's not going to risk running afoul of the ABC to not make money.
     
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  40. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    You did not read my post carefully enough:

    Think about it.
     
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