He'Brew Jewbelation Sweet 16 Ohio Version vs. Regular

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  1. dbc5

    dbc5 Savant (1,093) Jun 18, 2009 Arizona

    Due to Ohio's antiquated ABV laws, the typical 16% version of this beer could not be distributed in the state. An alternative version with a different label (which lists the ABV as somewhere in the 11% range) can instead be found on our shelfs. I know there has been some speculation as to whether this Ohio version reflects a blend of the 16% version with a lower alcohol beer, a different recipe altogether, or simply some crafty labeling. While there does not appear to be any definitive information available regarding this, I wondered if anyone has done a side-by-side to at least taste whether there are discernable differences between the Ohio and Regular versions of this beer. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
     
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  2. Extravadanza

    Extravadanza Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2011 Ohio

    this is why living in Ohio makes me sad :slight_frown:
     
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  3. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Pooh-Bah (1,797) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    PA is a wee bit backwards :rolling_eyes: in many ways when it comes to alcohol sales, but thank god I can buy 18+% abv brews provided I have the $$$ and luck to find them.
     
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  4. itsthepleats

    itsthepleats Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Ohio

    I've got both versions but have yet to try either. Should be a fun side by side!
     
  5. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Pooh-Bah (1,797) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I vote for doing that side by side alone.
     
  6. jriggins6

    jriggins6 Initiate (0) May 18, 2011 Colorado

    I have heard that both are the same. I live in GA and we can only have 13% abv. Last year the 15 had a peel off label and it said it was 15%. I find it hard and would take a lot of $$ for them to brew 2 separate batches
     
  7. Jazzwalker

    Jazzwalker Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 New Jersey

    I'd like to just add my little two cents. This is one amazing beer. Wonderful flavor and the mouth feel felt so full that, I wasn't sure whether to drink or chew it. A real sleeper of a beer. Thumbs up!
     
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  8. Retsinis

    Retsinis Pooh-Bah (1,610) Sep 25, 2009 Arizona
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    Interesting to hear of all the variables with this beer. Here in CA, the label has the "Sweet" word blocked out by a "CA eidition/label" or something. Beer is the same I'm sure, but think they had an issue with the Sweet 16 label here, i.e. advertising to minors restrictions would be my guess. It's a Tasty beer, doing a 4 year of their anniversary beers this Friday too!
     
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  9. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    I drank a bomber of this myself and think the Ohio version is the same as the other bottles. It took me two hours to drink and knocked me on my ass. Very good beer.
     
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  10. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    GA got the same 11.8% label, but I assure you it's the full strength version. We discussed this in the beer release section, there's not a lot of chance they could afford to brew two separate batches. Same with 15 last year, it was just a label change, the beer remained the same.
     
  11. dbc5

    dbc5 Savant (1,093) Jun 18, 2009 Arizona

    Excellent responses. Itsthepleats, let us know if you end up doing that side-by-side, although as others have mentioned, good luck if you attempt taking that on yourself. I appreciate all of the information from everyone. This is what I was hoping for.
     
  12. IKR

    IKR Maven (1,478) May 25, 2010 California
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    I'm wondering at some point if threads continue to document what's going on with the Hebrew Jewbelation compliance with ABV limits, if BAs in States with ABV limits might be SOL.
     
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  13. InebriatedJoker

    InebriatedJoker Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2010 Ohio

    I had the Ohio version last night , It was a great beer . Hot and boozy
     
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  14. PABSTMASTER

    PABSTMASTER Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2009 Pennsylvania

    That takes away from the whole "16" thing.
     
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  15. itsthepleats

    itsthepleats Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Ohio

    I just asked a knowledgeable beer shop owner what was up.... His response? "oh yeah, they just changed the label. Easy fix"

    I will report back once I perform this scientific side-by-side for a definitive answer.
     
  16. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,370) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    I hope you have a friend to partake in this side by side with you. I know I was pretty much one and done with just wonder bomber of the regular, but oh was it delicious.
     
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  17. chinabeergeek

    chinabeergeek Pooh-Bah (1,837) Aug 10, 2007 Massachusetts
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    not sure if jesskidden and his encyclopedic knowledge of TTB and state regulations will chime in, but wouldn't a simple label change seem like a very risky thing in the legal sense?
     
  18. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    This would so not fly in Texas (if we had ABV restrictions). They physically test every beer for ABV before it can be sold to match the label.

    Of course, if you use the "proper" state-approved verbiage on the label ('ALE IN TX' for beers over 4%ABV and you can't say the word "BEER" on the label), you don't need to put ABV at all. DFH 120 does this.

    Luckily nowadays, if you put the ABV on the label, you can call it milk for all they care.
     
  19. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,352) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    Really? We're having this conversation online in a (basically) public forum??

    Seriously, why would anyone think it's a good idea to document something like this? Do you not want this or any more anniversary beers in OH in the future?? Do you want Jeremy and the crew to get in trouble???

    And, of course, the beer is what the label says. The brewers have been explicit that this was a special batch for Ohio and they're very honest people.
     
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  20. itsthepleats

    itsthepleats Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Ohio

    Jampics, as a fellow beer lover I can understand this reaction but frankly couldn’t disagree more with your stance. If you take a step back and consider what you’re suggesting….

    - It’s OK for brewers to blatantly break state law
    - It’s OK for brewers to falsely advertise their product
    - It’s OK for a 16% ABV beer to be peddled as 11.8%...which by the way could be somewhat dangerous to the beer drinker.

    We’re all Beer Advocates and I don’t think anyone would say these things are OK. I very much enjoy the sense of integrity/charity/camaraderie BA brings my beer drinking experience and I approach this situation with that in mind. Would I love to drink “12%” BCBS all year? Hell yeah! Do I think disregarding Ohio’s ridiculous ABV law is OK? No. If Shmaltz really is changing their label to sell in Ohio, which btw I really doubt, it shouldn’t be condoned by this community…..and, I would argue, runs counter to what BA is all about.

    OK, off the soapbox. Here’s the pic I snapped this morning showing the two labels. Subtle huh? Despite the discussion stimulating suggestion that this is the same beer, I for one will be surprised if my impending experiment shows these are the same beer. I’m fully expecting the honest guys at Shmaltz are just that.

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    Cheers!
     
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