Help! I think I'm a complex-aholic!

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mychalg9, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    Lately I have had an ever increasing taste for extreme complexiousness (yeah I know the word is complexity but this is too extreme!), so much so that I have a hard time imagining drinking any kind of "simple" beer. I assume others may "suffer" from this affliction as well. Can anyone suggest something simple that might snap me back into reality?
  2. Daemose

    Daemose Oct 3, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Left Hand Nitro Milk Stout
  3. Zimbo

    Zimbo Aug 7, 2010 United Kingdom (Scotland)

    You're not suffering anything. You're just seeing the light. Give me a ring when you start appreciating Old English 800 3.2 or Busch Light and then we'll talk.
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  4. BigCheese

    BigCheese Jul 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    Boston Lager. Or stop being a d-bag.

    "I have a hard time imagining drinking any kind of "simple" beer." Talk about first world problems.
  5. CA_Infidel2o9

    CA_Infidel2o9 Dec 1, 2012

    Lol relax dude... breathe...

    I was at a hotel last night and the best thing they had was FW IPA, It tasted awesome! So did boston lager, SN PA, and even Blue Moon. I quarentee you snap out of it OP, when your forced to make do with what's available.
  6. jbertsch

    jbertsch Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    Slam back a case of bud light tonight to recalibrate. Then tomorrow crack an SNPA or something similar... it'll taste great.
  7. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I pretty much have a similar problem, when people ask what styles I like when I am done telling them I think to myself they are all big bold beers, DIPAs, RISs, BBAed beers, Barleywines, sours etc. I don't think I ever mention the lighter styles.

    I mean on occasion I will drink session style beers, like just last night I really liked Gumballhead, but more often than not, I want to be kicked in the face with flavor.
  8. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Nov 30, 2008 New York

    $20 says OP started this thread over McDonald's fries and a Pepsi.
  9. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Nov 30, 2008 New York

    This is a problem with the American palate overall. We equate bigger with better. It's why every single list of "best beers" is dominated by those with the highest ABV or bigger, boldest flavor profile. It's why our food is simultaneously the sweetest and saltiest across the board. It's just the way it is.
  10. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    ABV doesn't equate to flavor, I agree with that, take lambics and gueuze for instance, usually low in alcohol but packed to the brim with flavor. I don't think there is anything wrong with preferring more flavorful beers.
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  11. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Dec 14, 2011 Arizona

    I have the same kind of problem. Mine kind of comes from the cost of good beer though. If I'm spending the amount of money that craft costs, I always want to try something new. And at this point in my beer drinking career "something new" usually equates to something complex. Occasionally I'll drink something kind of simple, like an IPA, but even then it has to be a bold IPA. I used to love Deschutes Inversion and Mirror Pond, SNPA, Full Sail Pale Ale, etc, etc but now they just make me go :confused:. For me, these days, "basic" beer would be a black IPA, which is still much more complex than a basic IPA. I'm with Hanzo though, if someone asks my favorite style my response is always imperial stouts, barrel-aged beers, etc. I love getting the most bang for my buck (and I don't mean ABV-wise). I like it when I can sit and sip and explore the flavors, the ins and outs and complexity. So I'm with you OP.
  12. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Mar 23, 2008 California

    Complex does not equate to better beer.

    You can stick a turd and a handful of cheetos on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to make it more complex, but I'd prefer the plain version that tastes good.
  13. PittBeerGirl

    PittBeerGirl Feb 27, 2007 Ohio

    Mix a cantillon lambic, a bourbon barrel aged imperial stout, and a really hoppy DIPA and see if you can handle the complexity
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  14. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Is that turd barrel-aged though?
  15. wrycon

    wrycon Apr 22, 2009 Minnesota

    Hmmm, did he get fries at McDonald's and then go buy a Pepsi at, say, Taco Bell?

    If so, that reeks of complexion.
  16. MeadGuyfromMD

    MeadGuyfromMD May 23, 2007 Maryland

    I am kind of the same way, but lately Boston Lager has been tasting delicious. Also, a session beer that is fantastic is Sun King Osiris Pale Ale at only 5.6% abv
  17. mhksuccess

    mhksuccess Jul 7, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    i thought going to a heady topper and than a bcbs was taking simple lol
  18. fox227

    fox227 Nov 19, 2010 California

    I'm into "good".
  19. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Feb 22, 2011 California

    I love when people know what fast food chain carries what popular soda brand. Warms my heart. It does.
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  20. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Nov 30, 2008 New York

    Haha. Shows how often I indulge in either.
  21. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Dec 14, 2011 Arizona

    You prefer to just eat turds?...
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  22. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Mar 23, 2008 California

    No I avoid PBR, thanks.
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  23. jhartley

    jhartley Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    This doesn't sound like a problem to me at all; if you want more complexity, there's nothing wrong with that, I would think that going for more Coors Lite would be a bigger problem.
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  24. krl2112

    krl2112 Nov 10, 2012 Illinois
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    Don't forget where u came from. Remember ur roots!! Mine were college with Keystone baby!
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  25. jhartley

    jhartley Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Is this Shooter McGavin?
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  26. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Dec 14, 2011 Arizona

    I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast!
    You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
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  27. jhartley

    jhartley Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Exactly what I was thinking.!!
  28. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    I would highly disagree with this statement in general. Ever had Foie gras or mexican candy? I would argue that there are more additives in our food, but flavor wise I actually think American food is bland and tasteless in comparison to many other cultures. And that's ok, because I detest bland food. American beer until recently was in fact on average, VERY bland. The craft boom seemed to change that for the better, but if you ask me, in many regards, the ideas were actually borne from the love of foreign beer.
  29. matthaslaservision

    matthaslaservision Aug 18, 2012 British Columbia (Canada)

    pretty much just that.
  30. Stinkypuss

    Stinkypuss Apr 7, 2008 Pennsylvania

    If you can smell a horse taking a healthy shit, that's all the complexity you need.
  31. Stinkypuss

    Stinkypuss Apr 7, 2008 Pennsylvania

    That's why I live on a farm, I just drink miller ice and smell/lick them sought after blankets....
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  32. decimator

    decimator Jun 1, 2009 Ontario (Canada)

    To me "simple" beer does equate "bland" beer.

    I also have started to enjoy stronger flavoured beers more often (RIS, barrel aged & strong Belgians in particular) but I still regularly enjoy simpler styles such as a Pislner , Pale Ale, Porter or Stout.
  33. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    No but American Adjunct lagers which dominate the macro market IMO are bland beers! When you consider light beer is not brewed that way, and is american adjunct lager cut with more water, it speaks volumes. I am by no way defacing traditional style lagers or pilsners. I personally do not consider pale ales, porters or stouts, to even be simple beers!
  34. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer May 10, 2012 Illinois

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  35. franklinn

    franklinn May 29, 2012 Vermont

    I think you're somewhat missing the point of what he's saying. Most americans equate HFCS and salt with flavorful. An appreciator of food will like something like a delicate salad over pre-made salty french fries, but to the "average american" the salad is boring and the salt is "flavorful"

    He's saying the same thing goes for the american beer palate, which I agree with to some extent, though on the flip side many of those huge beers also offer serious complexity. As complex as a sour ale barrel-aged over fruit, coffee and cocoa nibs, dry hopped and bottle conditioned with maple syrup and brettanomyces? Maybe not. But maybe?
  36. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer May 10, 2012 Illinois

    Our food is the sweetest because the AG companies make shitloads of corn syrup, and own/put it in everything.
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  37. decimator

    decimator Jun 1, 2009 Ontario (Canada)

    You won't get an argument from me that the most of the mass produced North American lagers are quite bland. I found them bland before discovering craft beer. I used to not like beer because of that stuff.
  38. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer May 10, 2012 Illinois

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  39. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    And this is scary because most corn is GMO.
  40. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer May 10, 2012 Illinois

    And also that the owners of the GMo patents sue the shit out of farmers for all of their land if ANY of their plants are found on the property... even ones blown onto the property by the wind.... The other really nice part is that the gmo plants are modified to resist the chemicals (literally agent orange) that the corn companies also make and sell, so once you use the modified plants and the chemicals once, nothing else will grow on the land... except the modified plants. MAN, GIMME A BUD LIGHT.
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