Help improve beer options at King Richard's Faire

Discussion in 'New England' started by Providence, Aug 19, 2022.

  1. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Hey all. My son enjoys going to King Richard's Faire when it is held in Carver, MA. He's not super into it like some who go. He doesn't dress up like a knight or take on a really shitty English accent. But it's fun for him to throw knives and shoot little bows and arrows. I'm mainly interested in watching him have fun and drinking beer. Their beer selection is, in a word, abysmal. There draft list this year mirrors what it was last year:

    Coors Light
    Shipyard Pumpkin
    Blue Moon

    There's also an NA beer, a gluten free beer, and a cider. Offering those three beers, in 2022, is mind-numbingly bad. I get that there needs to be a Coors-Light type beer. Fine, keep it. But Shipyard Pumpkin and Blue Moon? Fuck me. At least get rid of one of those two. Let's put aside the fact that this is a renaissance fair and if they were truly trying to replicate what beer drinking was like during medieval times they would offer some very different options. Let's also acknowledge the fact that their job is to make money, so they aren't likely to put a draft line in for a smoked Helles beer, much as I would love that. But Jesus Fucking Christ, is it too much to ask for a Sam Adams Octoberfest? A Sierra Nevada Pale Ale? Hell, even regular Sam Adams Boston Lager would be fine. In fact, they used to pour Killian's at King Richard's Fair. I would take that again.

    I emailed the fine folks at King Richard's Fair and gently suggested that they modernize their draft list a bit. Again, I know their job is to make money, not cater to beer geeks, so I tempered my tone and expectations. But I legit think that having better beer options would make them more money. The average beer drinker knows and likes much more beer now than they did even just five years ago. Especially beer drinkers in Massachusetts, where there are insanely good breweries.

    In any event, the CEO emailed me back and said I am the first person in 27 years to ask for different beer selections. I was a bit amazed by this. I would imagine there are a number of people who are into renaissance fairs that also like good beer. Perhaps I am wrong.

    I am wondering if there are any BAs who enjoy going/enjoy bringing their kids to King Richard's Faire. And, if you're willing to drop a note to the CEO supporting the push for better beer, here is their email address:

    aimee@kingrichardsfaire.net
     
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  2. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,076) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Tell them if they added Tree House Julius they'd quadruple their business in a week.
     
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  3. seakayak

    seakayak Maven (1,295) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I imagine they'd want to keep the price and ABV reasonable, so I'd recommend:

    -Jack's Abby Post Shift Pilsner, 4.7%
    -Night Shift Whirlpool New England Pale Ale, 4.5%

    My first taste of homebrew actually came from Renaissance re-enactor friends who would come over to watch movies and share their beer - they'd sit on the couch and weave chainmail links the entire time! :beers:

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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,169) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Are you permitted to bring your own beer? That is what I would do.

    Cheers!
     
  5. speakorspasm

    speakorspasm Zealot (569) Jan 14, 2006 Massachusetts

    I love that reply to you OP - hilarious.

    These taps are blatantly bought and paid for. So first you'll need to find someone with a bigger pocketbook than the wholesaler currently writing those checks. A truly medieval state of affairs!
     
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  6. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Nope.
     
  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I would pass out with joy if post shift pils were available there.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,169) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Well, that is unfortunate.

    I strongly suspect you would not do this but...I would just bring my homebrewed beer and drink from an opaque mug:

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    Cheers to good beer! :beer:
     
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  9. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    That thought had crossed my mind too. Sadly, they don’t allow outside beverages of any kind. I remember going with friends when I was college and bringing a flask though, ha. Bit too old for that now, ha.
     
  10. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,493) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah with most entertainment venues, if the food/beverages are being provided through a contract service like Aramark, you're probably SOL. Usually the best option is a "crafty" option that is owned by InBev or Molson Coors

    Shipyard used to be partially owned by Miller, right? Are they still distributed by Molson/Miller Coors or whatever they are called?
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,169) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    They won't even let you bring in a water bottle?

    Kudos to you for being a good father here, I suspect I would tell those organizers they could....

    Cheers!
     
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  12. Sheppard

    Sheppard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,030) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Mayflower is in nearby Plymouth...
     
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  13. wehaveamap

    wehaveamap Pundit (771) Jan 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I’ll be honest, no matter how much amazing beer I have, I still kind of love a blue moon at the right moment. It tastes good.
     
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  14. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Real talk. They could so easily put mayflower porter up in there. It’d be a dream come true.
     
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  15. brewme

    brewme Pooh-Bah (1,828) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Glad to see this post, however, they do not care. KRF is fun, albeitly wildly overpriced. It would be nice to see some proper brew.
     
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  16. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Very true. I remember a day where I crushed 8 Blue Moon's sitting down while pregaming for a rave. I thought I was fine, then I stood up and my world was spinning :grimacing:
     
  17. pbrian

    pbrian Pooh-Bah (1,994) Feb 8, 2001 Connecticut
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    I do hate it when events’ beer selection sucks, but sometimes foregoing beer for an afternoon, especially at a family friendly event, isn’t such a bad thing. That nice option you have in your fridge when you get home will only taste better.

    semi-related, we used to take our kids to the cranberry festival in Carver, good family fun, nice area down there
     
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  18. nathanb47

    nathanb47 Zealot (639) Dec 14, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Last I heard Colonial Beverage distributor held the rights. They are a Miller Coors house. Their crafty options are Castle Island, Two Roads, Long Trail… those would even be improvements over what is there. Best bet is to try to contact colonial beverage and send them a message and see what they say perhaps.
    Sam and Sierra Nevada are distributed by L. Knife so you won’t see those most likely. I wouldn’t be surprised if they add White Claw this year because Colonial distributes it.
    Killians if memory serves correctly wasn’t sending half barrel kegs anymore and they go thru far too much to poor from sixtels.
     
  19. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I hear ya. But I'm not a heavy drinker, so forgoing an afternoon of beer drinking is no big deal and I do it all the time. I also don't think beer consuming events and family friendly events can't co-exist. I figure, I'm gonna be there and it'd be nice to have a pint or two at the most, sure would be nice to have something decent. And, of course, if they don't upgrade the beer choices, then not drinking will be precisely what I do, ha ha.
     
  20. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Thanks for this info. I'd be thrilled to have regular Long Trail Ale. I still enjoy that beer.
     
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  21. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,366) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Hey @JacksAbbyBrewing - how about brewing up a special lager just for King Richard's Fair?

    Tall order, I know, but a man can dream.
     
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  22. nathanb47

    nathanb47 Zealot (639) Dec 14, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Jack’s Abby is also distributed by L. Knife so I’m going to guess it will not happen if the contracts I mentioned are still in place with Colonial.
     
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  23. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,076) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    How many of us started out having a Blue Moon with an orange slice and thinking, “Wow, this is a beer?”

    Then I crushed a billion Allagash Whites and realized, “Oh, Blue Moon isn’t that great.”

    That being said had one last weekend, it did the job.
     
  24. pbrian

    pbrian Pooh-Bah (1,994) Feb 8, 2001 Connecticut
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    Yup, all good. And it’s my wife who is the one to remind me that I don’t need to drink beer everywhere I go….
     
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  25. Newport_beerguy

    Newport_beerguy Pooh-Bah (1,774) Feb 24, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Duh, there's no bar at the doctor's or dentist's offices. I'm not a complete lush...
     
  26. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,076) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    This sounds like a great business concept…
     
  27. pbrian

    pbrian Pooh-Bah (1,994) Feb 8, 2001 Connecticut
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    Yeah but docs have better drugs than beer
     
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  28. Jbrews

    Jbrews Maven (1,468) Aug 6, 2013 New Hampshire

    The majority of people there wouldn’t understand what craft beer is.

    If you’re there with family just enjoy it and find some goodies after.
     
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  29. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    I'll be honest, I've only had Allagash White once, and while it was good, I didn't really love it. Now, that was a relatively long time ago for my craft journey, and Wit is one of my least favorite styles. I probably owe it to myself to retry it
     
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  30. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,169) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I would encourage you to do so but my guess is that your impression of this beer will be the same, but please let us know.

    Cheers!
     
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  31. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,076) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Is it more you didn't like the beer, or more that you don't really care for the style?

    The only other one I've had that rivals it is St. Bernardus Wit, but that's not the easiest to find fresh.

    Was on tap at Brewer's Fork a couple weeks ago though, which is a treat.
     
  32. forum8417

    forum8417 Zealot (679) Feb 1, 2011 New Jersey
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    please watch before you go. All time great video
     
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  33. nicofack

    nicofack Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2022 New Jersey

    Unfortunate that the selection is bad there, but like others said, deep pockets are probably making those choices. I attend NYRF and MDRF every year, and both have better selections....they usually have Sam Adams in any case.
     
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  34. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Mostly the style for me. But I know it's a technically well done version of the style so I feel like it's worth a shot to try again. It's not like I hated it so even if I don't love it it's not a waste
     
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