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Help on Price/Rarity of these beers?

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by JGates, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. JGates

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    Would greatly appreciate if anyone could help me gauge the relative rareness of the below beers. I am not trying to "win" any trades I am just trying to get a general guide to what these beers cost/how many bottles were produced.
    So basically my question is, how much is it per bottle, and which bottles are rarer than others?

    King Henry
    CBS
    Hunahphu
    BA Hunahphu
    Darkness
    Zhukov
    Rare
    Dark Lord
    BA Dark Lord (bourbon, vanilla brandy)

    All help greatly appreciated!
     
  2. SpdKilz

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    My subjective opinion with ranking:

    BA DL/BA Hunahphu (depending on variety)
    Rare
    King Henry
    CBS
    Hunahphu
    Darkness
    Zhukov
    Dark Lord



    Price (will vary depending on if you were gouged or not):
    BA DL = $50
    Rare = $40-50
    King Henry = $15-20
    CBS = $20-30
    Hunahphu = $20 (I think)
    Darkness = $15-25
    Zhukov no clue
    Dark Lord = $15

    Prices often don't matter with rarer/harder to obtain beers (i.e. BA DL and BA Huna, Rare, KH, CBS, etc.). People will often trade other beers worth well over the price of the above listed beers just to obtain them.
     
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  3. SubpoenaDeuces

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    I am sure someone can come up with more accurate figures but that will get you started.
     
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  4. JGates

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    Thanks for the help guys!
     
  5. dman5400

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    Dark lord is $15
    Darkness (I think) was $20
     
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  6. dman127

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    Zhukov is about $13
     
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  7. tinypyramids

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    here's how i'd rank them, value-wise (this makes no consideration for taste or dollar value, only trade value):

    Brandy Vanilla BA Dark Lord
    Bourbon Vanilla BA Dark Lord
    PVW BA Dark Lord
    BA Hunahphu (depending on variety - it seems like apple brandy is most desired)
    All other BA Dark Lord
    Rare
    King Henry/CBS (tie)
    Hunahphu
    Darkness
    Dark Lord
    Zhukov
     
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  8. LoPo87

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    Darkness was $18 this year.
     
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    I found it interesting that the PvW Dark Lord ranked the highest in the White Whales list, but the two Vanilla versions seem to be trading higher right now (someone traded a PvW DL + two other nice bottles for a Brandy Vanilla). Is that a more recent phenomenon?
     
  10. tinypyramids

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    since i started browsing BA in late 2011/early 2012 i've seen far more ISO: vanilla DL than i have ISO: PVW DL in the trading forums. it's possible they were valued more equally around release (similar bottle count for sure) but as people have popped bottles along the way i think the vanilla became more desired due to taste.

    for the record, the only BA DL i've actually had is the 2012 de muerte. hoping to change that by attending a friend's 2012 BA DL tasting in a couple months...
     
  11. cbeer88

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    I'd tier them like so:

    BA Hunahphu
    BA Dark Lord (bourbon, vanilla brandy)

    Rare

    King Henry
    CBS

    Hunahphu

    Darkness
    Dark Lord

    Zhukov (This is a true "shelf beer")
     
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    BA Hunas/BA Dark Lords



    Rare



    KH
    CBS
    Huna

    Darkness
    Dark Lord

    Zhukov

    Ymmv, some can slide a little depending on who you ask, but that is pretty close....spaces between intentional and represent different levels of desirability and "trading power" if you will.
     
  13. POTABLE83

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    I traded the pvw + 2 others for the brandy vanilla. Brandy vanilla seems to command the highest trade value, but pvw isn't too far behind (you just don't see too many ISO's). For these two, it seems that you definitely need something or equal rarity plus more to obtain. For the Bourbon vanilla, you can probably get it for quantity of desirable beers, such as KH - CBS - Fou Foune - BCBVS...

    Brandy Vanilla DL - 433 bottles
    PvW DL - 484 bottles
    Bourbon Vanilla DL - 934 bottles
     
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