Would greatly appreciate if anyone could help me gauge the relative rareness of the below beers. I am not trying to "win" any trades I am just trying to get a general guide to what these beers cost/how many bottles were produced. So basically my question is, how much is it per bottle, and which bottles are rarer than others? King Henry CBS Hunahphu BA Hunahphu Darkness Zhukov Rare Dark Lord BA Dark Lord (bourbon, vanilla brandy) All help greatly appreciated!
My subjective opinion with ranking: BA DL/BA Hunahphu (depending on variety) Rare King Henry CBS Hunahphu Darkness Zhukov Dark Lord Price (will vary depending on if you were gouged or not): BA DL = $50 Rare = $40-50 King Henry = $15-20 CBS = $20-30 Hunahphu = $20 (I think) Darkness = $15-25 Zhukov no clue Dark Lord = $15 Prices often don't matter with rarer/harder to obtain beers (i.e. BA DL and BA Huna, Rare, KH, CBS, etc.). People will often trade other beers worth well over the price of the above listed beers just to obtain them.
here's how i'd rank them, value-wise (this makes no consideration for taste or dollar value, only trade value): Brandy Vanilla BA Dark Lord Bourbon Vanilla BA Dark Lord PVW BA Dark Lord BA Hunahphu (depending on variety - it seems like apple brandy is most desired) All other BA Dark Lord Rare King Henry/CBS (tie) Hunahphu Darkness Dark Lord Zhukov
I found it interesting that the PvW Dark Lord ranked the highest in the White Whales list, but the two Vanilla versions seem to be trading higher right now (someone traded a PvW DL + two other nice bottles for a Brandy Vanilla). Is that a more recent phenomenon?
since i started browsing BA in late 2011/early 2012 i've seen far more ISO: vanilla DL than i have ISO: PVW DL in the trading forums. it's possible they were valued more equally around release (similar bottle count for sure) but as people have popped bottles along the way i think the vanilla became more desired due to taste. for the record, the only BA DL i've actually had is the 2012 de muerte. hoping to change that by attending a friend's 2012 BA DL tasting in a couple months...
I'd tier them like so: BA Hunahphu BA Dark Lord (bourbon, vanilla brandy) Rare King Henry CBS Hunahphu Darkness Dark Lord Zhukov (This is a true "shelf beer")
I traded the pvw + 2 others for the brandy vanilla. Brandy vanilla seems to command the highest trade value, but pvw isn't too far behind (you just don't see too many ISO's). For these two, it seems that you definitely need something or equal rarity plus more to obtain. For the Bourbon vanilla, you can probably get it for quantity of desirable beers, such as KH - CBS - Fou Foune - BCBVS... Brandy Vanilla DL - 433 bottles PvW DL - 484 bottles Bourbon Vanilla DL - 934 bottles
