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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by captenaj, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. captenaj

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    I'm at a loss. I am having a party where I would like to introduce good beers to people who are afraid to try them. I am planning on having a tasting of craft beers and comparing them to mass produced ones. For example, having Bell's Oberon and saying it's like a Blue Moon. But what other "pairings" can I choose? What is a craft version of Miller and Coors Light? Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

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    I can kind of feel your pain man, but I'd say there aren't "bad beer drinkers," there are just people who are "happy in their world" when it comes to the beers they like. Expanding that area of their life isn't a high priority. For example, I like dewalt tools. I realize that other brands make some great stuff, and I even have a few of them. But I still like dewalt and will buy them first over others of the same type (unless someone gives me a very specific reason to do so).

    There's no easy answer. Brand loyalty is strong, even amongst craft beer enthusiasts. I'm big on stone, and will gladly drink them anytime. Not as strong as a locked in bud drinker, but some nuts are harder to crack than others.

    I would suggest just letting people try stuff. I like to give out shot glasses of homebrew at parties where most people are macro drinkers.

    Probably pick a different forum for this question and you'd get more responses too. :rolleyes:
     
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    A good pilsner or a golden ale would be the closest beer styles that I can suggest that would mimic the BMC beers. But I also agree with AlCapone that letting them drink anything would also be a good way to go.
     
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    buy some of these
    Great Lakes Christmas Ale
    Sunner Kolsch
    Ayinger Hefe
     
  5. Winston_Smith

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    I like to recommend a lighter-hopped pale ale to BMC drinkers to try and expand their beer view. Macro beers have almost no hop flavor at all, so while it's a good flavor, a palate used to Bud Light might find it overwhelming. I gave a buddy a SN Celebration last night, and he called it "too stout for me." He drinks BL, so I took this as "too much flavor... flavor overload."

    Not sure what to recommend as far as a Miller/Coors light parody. I'm of the opinion that Sam Adams Boston Lager is a good stepping stone.
     
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    I've tried this many times, and believe me, you're fighting an uphill battle.
     
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    Go with Old World equivalents. I think that might be the best way to convert BMC folks to craft stuff. Weihenstaphaner Original is a great intro for lager lovers. I think their Hefe is good for that too, to introduce people to other potential beer flavors. Then you pull the "Well if you liked that, you might really like..." and break out some good american craft.

    Alternatively, if you have a group that you know likes Guinness, you can show them some quality stouts and porters (Edmund Fitz, Mayflower, Founders, etc.), to get in on the roasty side.
     
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    Try local beers in everyday styles like Pale Ales,Amber/Red lagers, IPA's ect,ect.
     
  9. tkelley

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    People are suckers for local stuff (people like me anyway - can't resist local wares!). This might be the way to go, even if your local offerings aren't the super high quality stuff from the bigger craft brewers. Take someone to the tasting room or for a tour, have the employees their talk to them and get their eyes open.
     
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    I don't care if you like Dewalt. I'm going to force you to like Snap-On which is significantly more expensive because I feel it is better and I want you to be like me.:p
     
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    You are planning a beer tasting & it sounds like your guests think they are attending a party.
    Sounds like a recipe for disappointment on all sides.
     
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    Seriously though OP...'bad beer' is 100% subjective. I know plenty of BMC drinkers that are perfectly content drinking BMC. That's cool, more 'craft' for me!

    It's funny how this site is sometimes...everybody complains about getting beers and prices, yet try to convert everybody they meet. Honestly we should work to converting people BACK to BMC;)
     
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    I honestly wouldn't worry about it so much unless they're curious. That's just a general rule I follow. If they're drinking BMC only, it's more craft for me. Of course, I can easily drink BMC with them and alone. I don't see the problem.
     
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    I suggest getting sufficient quantities of BMC and a 3-6 sixers of craft beer (whatever styles YOU like) and offer the option of tasting the craft. If anyone takes you up on the craft beer, crack one and pour 3-6 tasters (2-4 oz) and wait for reaction. IF positive, hand them a bottle. If not, no real loss.

    Let your guest decide what they prefer, craft or BMC.
     
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    The OPs post was nothing like that attitude. I think he/she just wants to introduce people to good beer. Of course taste is subjective, but I didn't like my first beer. I was content with beer that I now deem "piss" until I got into "better" beer. There's no faulting this guy for (yes, I'm saying it) "helping" people enjoy the pleasure of life more.
     
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    That response was more tongue-in-cheek. I agree with you in my next response. Cheers!
     
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    I'd get BMC still and just get a few sixers of mild, easily accessible craft.

    Victory Prima Pils comes to mind. Great Lakes Eliot Ness Lager would be an easy one too.
     
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    I work at a liquor store and a bar/liquor store, the first thing I do when people ask question about craft beer and I can tell they are definitely new to it, is I ask what they normally like to drink and if they say something like Coors Light or Bud Light Lime (these are been 2 recent response) I will generally suggest SN Pale Ale, Weihenstephaner Original or Hefe, even Unibroue Blanche De Chambly and I have had a lot of success with those suggestions lately. I have gotten repeat customers a lot recently.

    Also people ask me stuff like "what is the best beer you have?" or what is your favorite beer?" and my immediate response is NOT to tell them what I like (they are most likely not going to enjoy Bells Expedition or Drie Fonteinen Oude Gueze) and ask them what they enjoy.

    Make the conversation revolve around them and not you, they will appreciate you trying to help them. I have seen people make the mistake of just talking about what beers they like and not trying to really help them find something they enjoy.

    Good Luck!
     
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    Whenever someone asks me what to get for "someone who likes Budweiser or Bud Light", I always point them to Victory Prima Pils or Stoudt's Gold Lager. Kölschs are also a good route to travel in my opinion.
     
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    Never send a Snap-On to do a Craftsman's job.
     
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    don't waste good beer on people who won't appreiciate it......... it'll just aggrivate you...
     
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    i work in a very nice liquor store in KC. i always try to get people away from the Buds and Millers, so i suggest either Schlafly Pale Ale or the new Boulevard 80 Acre Wheat and have had great success.
     
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    Start slow... just inch it in. For IPA, I suggest Harpoon.
     
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    Prima Pils is the shit. :D
     
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    Any of the following are easy transition beers for mass beer drinkers.
    Sam Adams Boston Lager
    Harpoon IPA
    Victory Lager

    And around Thanksgiving, Heavy Seas Marzen or Sam Adams Octoberfest are easy calls.
    Don't ever say a craft taste like a Bud or a Miller as that is never going to work.
     
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    if in California
    Ballast Pale Ale
    Redemption
    Rogue Hazelnut Brown
     
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    GL dortmunder.
     
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    Bitburger, blanche de bruxelles, and pilsner urquell !
     
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    Hefeweizen
    Tripel
    Marzen
    Basic porter or stout such as Founders Porter or Sixpoint Diesel
     
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    If they are stuck on there brand, for instance they only drink Budweiser, don't even bother. It's not gonna hurt you to let your friends drink macros. I wouldn't even call most of them "bad".

    I think "weak" is a better word. Large breweries do what they do very well, and they have the customers to prove it.

    If they are willing to try other beers try any reputable pilsner or lager.
     
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    Anchor Steam.
     
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    Any Bud drinker is going to leave an Anchor Steam lame after one sip if this is their first venture into craft beer. This is like jumping straight to Craft beer 205 when we need to fulfill the prerequisites of Craft Beer 101, 102, 102b (the Friday Lab) and 202 before we get there. And then we have to convince them that it really is a good value to spend for a single bomber bottle the same amount as they pay for an 18 pack. But I do my best to be that missionary.
     
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    Bad beer is beer that's gone off , rancid and undrinkable.Any other beer is a matter of taste and your view or my view is no more valid than the views of other people.You will probably find that if you give craft beer to your guests many if not most of them won't thank you for it , it's not to everybody's taste after all.Much of today's craft beer is akin to the normal fare of pre WW1 ; strong and heavily hopped and the world has voted with its feet to go for lighter, blander stuff.
     
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    I've found that if you get the bigger brand they'll be into it. Like New Belgium, Sierra Nevada, maybe Stone, maybe DFH. All my friends love Shiner Bock. If Real Ale(Texas brewery) brewed it they probably wouldn't be into it. Same with like Blue Moon. They like it because its everywhere and if its everywhere its because it sells good and so it must be good and they have to like it. I hope I make sense.
    Start with something they might be familiar with. Something they may have seen on the shelf or at a bar. It's all about perception. One of my friends liked hazelnut brown nectar a lot. I think most people like brown ales.
     
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    Depending on their preferences I would probably try to introduce them with SN pale ale, Deschutes porter, or Anchor's steam beer. Or maybe a flavored beer like Young's DC stout. These aren't too offensive to the craft amateur's palate in my opinion. Just don't try to start them off with IPAs or imperial stouts.
     
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    In Austin... I always suggest Austin Beerworks Pearl Snap Pils. Perfect replacement for BMC-type pilsners.
     
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    I always have Yeungling on hand. I don't know anybody that hates Yeungling, everyone's heard of it (at least in my region), and its a decent beer.

    Going along with the "bigger names and they will try it" gimmick- we also generally have a Sam Adams Seasonal Mixed Case when we know people are coming. The worst that will happen is they will only be willing to drink Sam Adams Boston Lager- which doesn't bother me because its usually the most boring beer in the case that I don't want to drink anyway.

    Good wheat beers will go over well for blue moon fans.
     
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    Get some of the cheapest BMC economy beer you can find - Milwaukee Beast, Schlitz, etc. For them, Better to be a pig satisfied...

    Also have whatever craft beer you would drink for you, and anyone with else with decent taste.
     
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    I agree, this would be my choice
     
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    I don't bother to try and turn guys onto better beer against their will, if they like Bud Light that's fine with me. If your throwing a party buy what you like and want to drink, and have Miller Lite and Corona for the others, if they ask and want some not a problem. But I wouldn't lose sleep fretting on what brews to try and convert guys.
     
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