Hill Farmstead Bottle releases

Discussion in 'New England' started by mobius387, Nov 6, 2012.

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  1. BobCobb

    BobCobb Aspirant (295) Jul 10, 2012 Illinois
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    So, it clearly seems that you will not be accepting the Friday entries, which is disappointing, but it doesn't appear as though I will change your mind about the honest confusion here.

    A few things though - my point was never that 4 days wasn't enough time to do this, but rather that 4 days could never be the understanding of how much time we had based on the Twitter response. I just find it a bit ironic too that one of your goals here seems to be requiring a strict attention to detail on our part when entering the lottery, and yet you use very ambiguous language when discussing this particular topic in a public forum.
     
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  2. Franch

    Franch Devotee (445) Mar 22, 2011 District of Columbia
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    I hope he allows all the Friday entries but yours due to the way over the top whining and entitlement. "A strict reading of the website would agree with you"... Full stop. No need to continue from there.
     
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  3. fspadafora

    fspadafora Initiate (193) Jan 22, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Glad I got my entry in on Monday . I feel bad for BobCobb though, as at quick glance I thought it was through Friday too. I'd have let you in, but what were you waiting for? If lawyers wrote the rules it would have had to say 11:59:59, hopefully it never has to come to that! I actually found it interesting to read about what day midnight belongs too and that 12:00:00 is actually neither am or pm. Only consensus was that such use should be avoided due to confusion and when involving something as important as a beer lottery: enter early.
     
  4. vonnegut21

    vonnegut21 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012 New York
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    Agreed. Not saying I wouldn't be upset if I had screwed up and missed the deadline, but it's really nothing to be mad at Hill Farmstead about. The website said 12am March 1 the entire time. It didn't take "a strict reading of the website," it just took reading the website. 12am March 1 means 12am March 1. I don't see the confusion.
     
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  5. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    You had 4 full days (plus part of day's notice) to write an email that was literally about as long as that post you just wrote. I really don't even understand why it mattered if it was 1 day, 4 days, or 7 days... For what reason did you not just do it immediately?
     
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  6. BobCobb

    BobCobb Aspirant (295) Jul 10, 2012 Illinois
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    I didn't do it immediately because I thought it meant Friday night from the start. I read the website after it was posted, and I was also reading twitter. Taken in conjunction, I never thought Thursday at midnight was possibly the deadline. I only realized this may not have been right when someone posted Friday morning asking about what the final count was.

    The piling on here is somewhat absurd, given I was only explaining why I believed what I did, as part of conversation with those who made the same assumption, and those who didn't. My only beef was with the information provided through Twitter, and then being told not to rely on it. I know HF is the new deity for everyone, and the grips on the pitchforks tighten when someone argues with Shaun, so that's fine. I'll see most of you in line anyway for Double Barrel Damon.
     
  7. Franch

    Franch Devotee (445) Mar 22, 2011 District of Columbia
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    you're simply wrong.
     
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  8. fspadafora

    fspadafora Initiate (193) Jan 22, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    I think this should be the topic for the next essay: If a contest ends on 12am March 1st and 12am=midnight, does 12am March 1st = midnight March 1st, and what day should you enter by. Correct answer: Feb 28th except in the case of a leap year.

    Good luck to all the others who entered. I think it will be quite an exciting honor for those 50 that are chosen.
     
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  9. ceight

    ceight Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 New York

    Thank you for having a good attitude about this, and most of the people I have run in to who missed the deadline have also had good attitudes. :) Really sad for you guys who missed it, though.

    I'm always insanely careful about these times.. I think I may have been bitten in the ass by these before and am now overly anal about it.
     
  10. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    You took an offhanded and highly subjective comment made on a super casual platform over the clearly written formal instructions on their web site. Even if you interpreted the Twitter post in the manner you did, you obviously didn't read the rules very clearly, as they would have raised an obvious contradiction. You really have nobody to blame but yourself here, that's the reason you are catching flak from people.
     
  11. BobCobb

    BobCobb Aspirant (295) Jul 10, 2012 Illinois
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    I think we disagree about the extent we should be able to rely on Twitter (there were at least two instances from what I remember of them saying "all" or "entire" week, but let's even ignore that). I've already admitted I was careless in reading the website. OK. So now, they can either be willing to consider the misunderstanding and maybe write a few more names on pieces of paper, or they can say sorry, I'm not sorry. They chose the latter. I've said my piece, and I'll move on.
     
  12. fspadafora

    fspadafora Initiate (193) Jan 22, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Well easy for me to have a good attitude, I sent my email in on Monday. So hopefully I have a valid entry in and have fingers crossed with the other 500-1000 people. I just wanted to change the vibe of the thread from bashing the poor guy that missed it to the great opportunity it is.
     
  13. POTABLE83

    POTABLE83 Devotee (407) Jun 21, 2012 New York
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    500-1000 entries? That would be awesome but I'm guessing it'll be upwards of 2500 since trustee's are involved.
     
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  14. BobCobb

    BobCobb Aspirant (295) Jul 10, 2012 Illinois
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    I would have liked to have been in the lottery, but no one needs pity for not having a 1 in 20 chance to spend $350 on beer. : )

    In the end, I guess it comes down to how I would handle it in their shoes. Look, I don't doubt they probably got a number of emails with reasons why the deadline was missed, and at some point you draw a hard line. I would probably try to think of ways to accommodate non-frivolous explanations, or least condition it on something that is a win for both sides, e.g. sure we'll throw your name in a hat, and if you win you bring $20 of canned goods donations. There are a number of possibilities. They chose to do it another way. Alright.
     
  15. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (945) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I forgot about the 28 day month and sent mine a few minutes past midnight. If it was deleted then it will save shaun from witnessing my massacre of the english language.

    Thanks again to the guys (if you're on here) who pushed my car out of the bottom of the ice hill(farmstead) today!!!
     
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  16. InfinityonTrial

    InfinityonTrial Initiate (76) Mar 31, 2012 Connecticut
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    You guys are being pretty hostile towards BobCobb when he's being pretty reasonable. It's not like he's going off on HF or any of you. Lighten up.
     
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  17. ceight

    ceight Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 New York

    Fair, and good luck on your entry!

    I am up at HF this weekend, and have met several people who, unfortunately, missed the deadline, and have just been really lighthearted about it. Though, maybe that's because the Stagecoach breakfast is amazing or the dry hopped double sunshine was phenomenal. Hard to be in a bad mood after these.
     
  18. grassrootsVT

    grassrootsVT Initiate (0) May 10, 2005 Vermont

    Ok.
    We will allow all 200+ entries that were entered after midnight - So - anyone that sent an email between 12:01 am and 12:01pm on Friday will now be accepted into the lottery.
     
  19. BobCobb

    BobCobb Aspirant (295) Jul 10, 2012 Illinois
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    Sorry, but I'm still confused. Does this mean those who emailed Friday afternoon (i.e. after 12:01PM) are still out?
     
  20. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (685) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Interesting that procrastination and whining actually worked in this instance. 12 am march 1st can only mean one thing, because at the end of the night on march 1st at midnight it's march 2nd... I guess I don't have sympathy since I'm usually the biggest procrastinator ever, but not with HF and never late when the deadline is written in plain English lol. Also, it didn't seem that anyone had an issue understanding when it started, which was stated in the same format as the end time (12am).
     
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  21. Circleo12

    Circleo12 Devotee (440) Nov 12, 2012 South Carolina
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    Agreed. Rules were clear, so I made double sure deadlines wouldn't be a problem, and sent an entry in Monday morning. It wasn't like a 2 hour thought process and brainstorm session were needed, therefore excessive time planned out for such an email.
     
  22. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    It sounds like you are the only one who has moved on. Some people really have that little to do huh?
     
  23. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (945) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Look on Facebook. People were sending them in before the window of time even started. No one pays attention to things. Im not surprised the 12am end time caused confusion either. Even I'm an idiot with the short month mix-up.
     
  24. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (685) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, I mean it didn't take that long. I assume this huge window was in response to complaints about tickets for events selling out in 1 second (which is more understandable), but when 96 hours isn't enough, it's your fault not Shaun's.
     
  25. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (685) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Oh I know, and Shaun was calling them out. I'm just saying it's not difficult to read or send out the email early in the window if you're unsure about deadlines... I could understand some human error, but it's not Shaun's fault so move on.
     
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  26. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    holy crap. 200+? How many total entries were there?
     
  27. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (945) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Did these 3rd anny tickets sell out already or is my internet broken?
     
  28. rknrll

    rknrll Initiate (34) Jul 13, 2009 Massachusetts

    Gone by 7:03 according to my clock.
    Site is holding up fine for me.
     
  29. GuisseppeFranco

    GuisseppeFranco Aspirant (214) Nov 7, 2010 New York
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    I just got my two. My wife and I were trying on three different devices and luckily one of them worked.
     
  30. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (945) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Ok well when do Saison fest tickets go on sale? I want to prepare right now.
     
  31. DonFrap

    DonFrap Zealot (536) Feb 27, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Tried right at 7:00 got a thing saying the site was too busy to let me in. Finally got through at 7:03 and no tix left.
     
  32. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (945) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Wait…I just bought 2 tickets. Not sure what's going on.
     
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  33. brooklynbrews

    brooklynbrews Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2010 Uzbekistan

    Same deal here, had the atomic clock countdown in one window and refreshed at 6:59:59, got through.
     
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  34. DonFrap

    DonFrap Zealot (536) Feb 27, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Just tried again, no dice, you probably got some released tickets from people who tried on multiple devices
     
  35. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (685) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    6 months ago there was no problem getting GA tickets for the harvest fest, now it's 3 minutes? What happens next time? Man I am glad I got up there back in the spring last year, I can't imagine how busy they must be all the time now. Guess I'll find out when I skip work for the Double Barrel Damon release and drive 16 hours in a day...
     
  36. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Aspirant (227) Nov 2, 2007 Vermont
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    Took 18 minutes of continuously re-entering those annoying spam-bot preventers - but persistence paid off, even on my slow "budget" connection.
     
  37. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (945) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    This was the peak of the line at the 2010 Harvest fest

    [​IMG]

    Actually I don't even think there was a line
     
  38. AReno00

    AReno00 Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2009 Massachusetts

    Crazy. I have never had a problem getting tickets for their fests. Should have known this one would sell out so quick. Oh well. Maybe next year.
     
  39. BeerCosmonaut

    BeerCosmonaut Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2010 Vermont

    Shaun tweeted that they sold 3,000 liters of beer this week during the Norma release -- that's 150l/hour or 2.5l/minute

    That essentially sounds like a line the entire time they're open.
     
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  40. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (685) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Ah yeah, the good old days. I wish I was 21 back then. Got up there a short time after, but damn. I'd have loved that line lol.
     
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