Homebrewers petition Obama to release White House Honey Ale recipe

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,682) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    President Obama's White House Honey Ale has been a hot topic for months now, and especially with the recent reports that the President has been enjoying and sharing homebrews along the campaign trail. Not only has this created a demand for a beer few will ever try, but some have taken their desire to try the beer even further.

    If you can't try it, brew it!

    On August 18 "John L" from Washington, DC started a "We the People" petition to release the recipe.
    The goal is to reach a total of 25,000 signatures by September 17, 2012; as of this post there's just over 1,100 signatures.

    And yesterday a Reddit user posted that they submitted a formal Freedom Of Information Act Request. Yes, a FOIA request for a homebrew recipe. I'm not sure the request for an autographed copy from the President will up his chances, but at least he had fun with it.

    Here's the scanned letter:


    My bet is on the petition reaching its goal and the Obama administration having some fun by releasing the recipe to the masses. It would be the cool thing to do. And regardless of who you plan on voting for this November, this level of media attention for beer and homebrewing is awesome.

    Anyway, will you be signing the petition?


    And for all of you homebrewers out there, would you brew a White House Honey Ale clone if the recipe gets released to the public?


    (Please keep this thread clean and on topic.)
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  2. RochesterAaron

    RochesterAaron Initiate (0) May 24, 2007 New York

    I'd brew it - nothing to lose and it makes a nice story when sharing it with friends.
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  3. InfinityonTrial

    InfinityonTrial Initiate (65) Mar 31, 2012 Connecticut

    Exactly what the Freedom of Information Act was intended for.
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  4. mykey120

    mykey120 Initiate (121) Aug 13, 2012 Wisconsin

    Haha thats awesome! So what's the trade value for the white house honey ale?
  5. Haslips

    Haslips Initiate (21) Aug 27, 2003 Oregon

    For sure I'd brew it if it were released.....The wife is always asking me to brew something for her!
  6. ClassicBrad

    ClassicBrad Aspirant (280) Sep 29, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I'd definitely brew it just for the fun of it.
  7. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Disciple (396) Mar 23, 2008 California

    I'd brew it... then dry-hop it with 4oz. of Citra!
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  8. robinsmv

    robinsmv Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Florida

    This could make for a great fund raiser. For sale: white house homebrew kit complete with white house honey :wink:
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  9. TomClem

    TomClem Initiate (108) Mar 7, 2012 Nebraska

    I saw an article on a lawyer that has sent in a freedom of information act request. I'd say at this point it is not if the recipe will be known, but when and how it will be delivered.
  10. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2006 Iowa

    I'd brew it as well if it is not extract. Though I doubt I could just brew it as is, I always have to mess with something.
  11. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Signing this.
  12. carolinabeerguy

    carolinabeerguy Champion (885) Oct 10, 2005 North Carolina

    I'm signing it.
  13. jricharc

    jricharc Aspirant (201) Feb 16, 2012 Virginia

    I signed it, but I doubt it will ever reach the required 25k signatures so we will never see the document...
  14. Walkersan

    Walkersan Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2006 North Carolina

    This is ridiculous in more ways than one. To name but a few:

    (1) This petition is wasting time and money. somebody, somewhere, is going to have to spend a non-zero amount of time looking at this ridiculous petition. thanks for wasting my tax money.

    (2) this is not something that would fall under the freedom of information act. it's a private/personal thing and not an actual government thing. just like the public cannot petition the 1st lady into sharing her bra size, it cannot petition the white house to give out a beer recipe.

    (3) did anybody just bother to ask for it, or did they jump straight to the baseless and wasteful petition?
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  15. Gold89

    Gold89 Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2010 England

    I'm not American so perhaps I'm not as eligible to comment but with homebrewing still being illegal in one state it legitimises the hobby as well as promoting domestic and small scale food and drink production.
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  16. nategibbon

    nategibbon Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2008 Illinois

    Lighten up, Francis
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  17. PorterLambic

    PorterLambic Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2003 Florida

    Not a brewer, just an imbiber, but I'd gladly drink it and pay for the privilege. Home brewers ROCK!
    (Stay on target!)
  18. mikecharley

    mikecharley Devotee (402) Nov 6, 2008 Pennsylvania

    If I thought it was a good recipe, I'd brew it. Consider me signing the petition
  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,903) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    As a long time homebrewer, I give out any recipe as part of promoting the hobby and sharing. Hey, I have gotten some great recipes from highly respected homebrewers by just asking. If the White House gets the hobbies ethos, they don't need all of the red tape.

    Edit - Without the honey from the White House garden, it would not be the same.
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    RBCORCORAN Initiate (0) May 18, 2009 Massachusetts

    I did a quick search and discovered that the chef has brewed 3 different batches at the white house. the honey ale , a blonde honey and a honey porter. each contained one pound of w.h. honey but it doesn't say what size the batches were. Also found out that they were selling obama pint glasses. didn't look into them because I have no interest in the glasses .
  21. InfinityonTrial

    InfinityonTrial Initiate (65) Mar 31, 2012 Connecticut

    I hope all of the likes I got for my post are because they realize this is what I meant.
  22. ixodus

    ixodus Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2010 New Jersey

    Don't cry bro. :wink:
  23. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (960) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts

    I'd like to see the recipe but I don't think I would brew it.
  24. Dennoman

    Dennoman Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2011 Belgium

    I'll hazard a wild guess and say that if it does get released, people will be sorely disappointed with a generic recipe, only with White House honey that they can never get.
  25. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Initiate (0) May 13, 2007 South Carolina

    I'd rather have one of the WH glasses and a bottle with the label on it. Wonder if the caps have a design?

    RBCORCORAN Initiate (0) May 18, 2009 Massachusetts

  27. RochesterAaron

    RochesterAaron Initiate (0) May 24, 2007 New York

    1) The website was set up so people can create a petition about anything. Only petitions with 25k signatures are addressed, and even then they are typically ignored.

    2) Why not? It was created with tax money. The creator was paid with tax money and it was brewed with ingredients paid for with tax money. I'm paid with tax money and my emails and personal files at work are fair game.

    3) Who knows, who cares?

    Lighten up. The last few presidents have shown they have the ability to disengage and relax. I'd prefer my politicians be normal human beings with interests that extend beyond politics and the ability to step away. It makes for more balanced human beings and more reasonable responses.
  28. whitesdsv

    whitesdsv Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2012

    Hope the petition works, The Whitehouse beer should be made available to all of us. Ingredients may be paid for by the President, but the workers making it are paid by US.
  29. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Devotee (441) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

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  30. brstls4drmrs

    brstls4drmrs Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2011 North Carolina

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  31. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    I bet the beer isn't even all that good.
  32. dranoelsy

    dranoelsy Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 California

    then throw it in some type of oak barrel and lock it up for a year or two
  33. chcfan

    chcfan Zealot (563) Oct 29, 2008 California

    I would imagine it's probably a very BMC-friendly beer with very little "offensive" flavor. When they release it, I may give it a go, but would certainly want to alter the recipe to my preferences, which kind of defeats the purpose.
  34. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,903) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

  35. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,515) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  36. JohnB87

    JohnB87 Initiate (114) Mar 14, 2011 Michigan

    Gotta love the entitlement that comes from something like this. Just because I'm American, means I have the right to know. *facepalm*

    That said, I wouldn't mind trying some of this when the recipe gets released.
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  37. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    Perhaps it is just me, but whenever a beer has "honey" in its title I end up not liking it too much. Every single time I've tried a beer that has a special honeyed up analog, I like the original about 10 times more.

    I like honey by itself, too.
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  38. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Nope, you forgot your <sarcasm> tag
  39. InfinityonTrial

    InfinityonTrial Initiate (65) Mar 31, 2012 Connecticut

    Yeah I really should have used it.
  40. Henamonster

    Henamonster Initiate (51) Feb 2, 2007 California

    I would try it. I've never brewed with honey, so why not have a great story to go with it? At the very least, it'll look great next to that can of Billy Beer.
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