Hop flavor of Founders Centennial IPA?

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  1. Brushkanna

    Brushkanna Devotee (482) Jun 27, 2011 New Jersey

    What is the distinct hop flavor in Founders Centennial IPA, is it all Centennial hops? That particular flavor characteristic is really bitter for me and I’m trying to identify it.
     
  2. Heatwave33

    Heatwave33 Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2011 Florida

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  3. dukes

    dukes Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 Maryland

    Are you asking which hops they use in Centennial IPA? Because that doesn't determine bitterness. Any hop can be bitter depending upon how much and when it's added to the boil. Though some hops can produce a perceived harsher bitter than others.
     
  4. FatSalad

    FatSalad Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012

    Kadonny will jump up my ass if I say it, since "I really need to expand the number of IPAs I drink", but Centennial hops, in my opinion (especially in single hop C beers), taste of candy pineapple.
     
  5. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Meyvn (1,166) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    You know, you should really expand the number of IPAs you drink.

    I do taste candied pineapple with Centennial but I notice this flavor much more with age. I really do not pick up a lot of candied pineapple in Two Hearted but give me a Third Coast Old Ale with a bit of age on it I really start to pick in up. In most IPAs I notice a blend of citrus and floral flavors.
     
  6. klaybie

    klaybie Initiate (131) Nov 15, 2009 Illinois

    As far as I can tell it's Centennial and Centennial only, I get pineapple, grapfruit from it. An outstanding beer to say the least.
     
  7. LiquidTable

    LiquidTable Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 Michigan

    It's 100% Centennial hops. The typical flavor characteristic is grapefruit/orange rind/pineapple with a hint of pine.
    Bitterness is related to the alpha acid content of the hops, and how much are used. This beer is heavily dry-hopped so it has a higher perceived bitterness than actual measured bitterness. Don't quote me on it but I believe it's only about 60 IBUs...
     
  8. klaybie

    klaybie Initiate (131) Nov 15, 2009 Illinois

     
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  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,767) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I think that Founders Centennial has quite a bit of residual caramel malt sweetness, so that may be a contributing factor there, especially the 'candied' aspect. I haven't gotten that quality in, say, Two Hearted or Stone IPA.

    I don't know what type of hops Lagunitas uses in Maximus, but I really get huge pineapple in that one, though it is more of grilled pineapple rather than candied. Great stuff- that baby was on my heavy rotation during Feb/Mar.
     
  10. HeadyBeer

    HeadyBeer Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2009 Pennsylvania


    Yes alpa acids and the amount of hops all help you determine the bitterness. How long they are boiled actually has much more to do with bitterness. Basically, your first addition hops will give you the majority of your bitterness. The later addition hops add flavorand the aroma. Heat extracts bitterness (boiled longer gives you more bitterness...) so dry hopping should add aroma and no bitterness.
     
  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,817) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Dry hopping does not add IBUs. It does add essential oils and Beta Acids. The Beta Acids become bitter when oxidized. The oils add the impression of hoppiness.

    The analytical measure of IBUs does not go up.The perception of bitterness does though.
     
  12. musicforairports

    musicforairports Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2006 New York

    I get a distinctive and largely one-note flavor of grapefruit and orange from Centennial IPA, and other Centennial-exclusive IPAs. I can pick Centennial out easier than many other hops.
     
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  13. LiquidTable

    LiquidTable Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 Michigan

    To clarify, I did not mean to imply that dry-hopping imparts bitterness. Essential oils in the hops provide the flavor and aroma. Those oils are voltile and boil off in high heat. Regardless, the perceived bitterness is affected by the late addition hops as well, particularly the flavor addition. Perceived bitterness is your taste and olfactory senses tricking you into believing something is more bitter than it is, because of other related flavors and aromas.
     
  14. Brushkanna

    Brushkanna Devotee (482) Jun 27, 2011 New Jersey

    I think you are correct the centennial hop is distinct and easy to pick up on
     
  15. BoneyardBrewer

    BoneyardBrewer Aspirant (212) Apr 24, 2005 Michigan

    tho there is minimal to no flavor contribution, I believe the bitter addition is Nugget. At least at one time they used Nugget for a number of beers.
     
  16. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,374) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Don't take my comments out of context please. We were talking tropical IPAs. I said if you think Two Hearted is tropical, then you need to try more IPAs. I stand by that. Don't mix my words to make it into something it's not.

    You can get pineapple flavors in the centennial hop, but the main flavors are still grapefruit and orange. Centennial and Two Hearted both have pretty big orange flavors, Two Hearted much more so, when fresh of course. Others obviously agree as per this:

     
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