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Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by sergeantstogie, Jan 25, 2013.
Title says it all. What do you guys think?
BS = Bogus Seeds?
I wonder what kind of seeds people will actually be getting ha! It is WA after all.
man, even THAT guy is out of citra...
So...a little googleing and seems like seeds MAY be legit. Not sure about this guy though. So would that mean that like other plants hobbyists grow, you COULD grow from seed until you could sex them and cull the males? Is that why rhizomes are normally used? I found a USDA site where they provide seeds for free for people conducting research.
That was my thought too lol.
It seems like it would be more legit if they didn't have 20+ listed. I feel like if it were one or two types I would believe it.
Even if the seeds are 'legit', they will not grow true to type - kind of like apples. So you have no idea what you will get. Could be a great project for someone who is really into growing hops.
But, yes, the ad looks like BS.
That's weird. So a seed from a plant may deviate from what it's parent was?
Yep. It will still be a hop and will probably be vaguely like its parents (in most cases) but not just like them. That's why rhizomes are used. Planting seeds is strictly experimental for research, developing new varieties, etc. I'm no botanist but I think this is pretty common in the plant world.
I wonder what % of ads on craigslist are scams. From experience, I'd say 93.8%
listing the AA% is the first tip that is fake.
1/2 the shit on Craig's List is BS...but seeds are not...if you have a male plant around, you will have seeds. Skivtjerry is correct in that rhizome propagation is the only easy way to ensure the plant is genetically identical, but I believe legend has it, that Amarillos were originally seed propagated naturally.
I've read that the first Amarillo was found growing as a volunteer plant near the hopyard. Thankfully, the weed-eater didn't get it.
Hop seeds are a lot cheaper here on the east coast, although my supplier doesn't carry every hop variety in the world.... Nice find.
What's the chance that they nadded the boy that fathered Amarillo? ...he's gotta be out there somewhere : )
Well, the orignal Amarillo plant was propagated by nature, and found growing on a farm where it wasn't expected. but every cultivated Amarillo plant since then has been propagated via rhizomes. That original Amarillo plant would not have been the same as any other wild plant.
Hey we all don't look just at the MsM ads
"That original Amarillo plant would not have been the same as any other wild plant"
Will definitely not argue with that statement : )
he has alpha acid percentages listed. it must be legit...
No Simcoe listed...it must be legit! Looks like the best buy since "pet rocks"...I'm dating myself : )
I have seen a lot of seeds over the years. That is way more than I have seen in 20 years.
If these are from open pollenation, you know the mother but not the father. A crap shoot.
There is the possibility that the guy works at a breeding company or university. How those are for sale, you can decide.
I'm not so sure that they will be even vaguely like the parents. If you ever see the experimental plants at hop research centres they are incredibly diverse it terms of hop cone size and shape, even plants from the same parents.
it's obviously a front for weed. /thread.
I don't think that's obvious or necessarily true.
Weed is legal in Wa so no need to run a front.
no, i was being facetious.
maybe they're shipping outside of WA? just a thought.
But still illegal across the entire USA, so the ATF can still bust down your door and arrest you according to federal laws... Obama did a ton of this in California in the past couple of years (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/07/local/la-me-obama-medical-marijuana-20111008 & http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/15/us-usa-marijuana-california-idUSBRE85E02D20120615)
i'm debating ordering some just to see what the deal is.
Good to know he has all types and regions of Golding available.