Hoppy Lagers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JEdmund, Jan 16, 2013.

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  1. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    No, not even close. Never means, Never. I like diversity in beer. In fact i used to not like hoppy beers, it took me a few years to warm up to them. I appreciate them, but i would never want to give up the various other wonderful non bitter styles either.
  2. knoxtennessee

    knoxtennessee Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2010 Tennessee

    I'm with you man, I'm ready for something out of the ordinary. We've got pine and grapefruit, lets have something different. Noble hops are great, and probably don't taste like onions when you over do them.
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,112) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    For me, a hoppy lager = Northern German style Pilsners.

    My favorites are Jever, Sly Fox Pikeland Pils, Sly Fox Standard Pils, Victory Prima Pils, Victory Brewing’s series of Braumeister Pils beer, Troegs Sunshine Pils, Manayunk Bill’s Pils, …..

  4. Dannywhitewash

    Dannywhitewash Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2010 Ohio

    I received one of these gems as an extra. I loved it!
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  5. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    I'm all for expansion and new styles so I say bring it on. Just last week I bought my first 4 pack of Hoponius Union that was bottled 2 days prior...delicious. Didn't care for the Sam Adams IPL too much, although it's by far the best beer in their spring mix pack
  6. jscottku21

    jscottku21 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Smooth Hoperator by Stoudt's.
  7. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    That's a GREAT idea!
  8. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    If I could go in and take the "e" out, I would. I'm very sorry.
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,112) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    “I know Sam Adams is coming out with one …”

    Do you happen to know the name/specific style of the ‘new’ Sam Adams beer?

  10. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    The Sam Adams is called Double Agent India Pale Lager (IPL). It's average at best. Basically tastes like a slightly hoppier Boston Lager
  11. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    A lot of their beers taste simliar to Boston lager. I think they like to use a similar malt bill in a lot of their beers.
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,112) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I have noticed that some of the Latitude 48 Deconstructed IPAs tasted a lot like Boston Lager. I rationalized it as using the same type and amount of crystal malt in the grain bill.

  13. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    Absolutely. All the Latitude 48 beers taste like Boston lager. I'm thinking same Crystal and Munich malt??? I really think all those beers would be better with a more transparent malt bill.
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,112) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    From the Sam Adams website for Latitude 48 IPA:

    “Malt Varieties: Samuel Adams two-row pale malt blend, Caramel 60, and Gambrinus Honey Malt”

    My ‘suspect’ is the Caramel 60!

    Oh, an easy thing to do. Check the grain bill for Boston Lager!

    “Malt Varieties: Samuel Adams two-row pale malt blend and Caramel 60.”

    Mystery solved!?!:astonished:

  15. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    I didn't know they made that info available. Interesting. I thought I detected a toasty flavor. What about the "german malts" mentioned about the Latitude 48?
  16. patto1ro

    patto1ro Defender (627) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands

    That means you are open to AK?
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,112) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I have never brewed with Gambrinus Honey Malt (I am a homebrewer). A description of this malt via Midwest Supplies:

    ‘A very versatile malt. The intense honey-like sweetness this grain imparts makes it a nice addition to almost any beer style. Has no bitter roast flavors, and does not add significantly to color.”

    From my readings, brewers typically use Honey Malt as a very small percentage of the grist; something like 2-3%.

    I suspect that in Latitude 48 , Honey Malt is used sparingly. I personally did not take note of a “honey-like sweetness”. I sure did perceive a caramel taste which is what the crystal malt Caramel 60 brings to the table.

  18. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    Please get out of here with that bad idea. That is one of the very few regular stouts available to me.

    Kill off Ruthless, that beer is a waste of a seasonal spot
  19. dpjosuns

    dpjosuns Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2009 Illinois

    If you can get your hands on some, Bell's Quinannan Falls is f-ing bomb.
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  20. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    They lost my respect my naming their lead off beer after a Stone Temple Pilots guitarist.
    If your theme is music, God, have some taste
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  21. Smurf2055

    Smurf2055 Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2011 Washington

    Second Prima Pils and Noble Pils.

    Fort George 1811 Lager
  22. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    Forget what I said. I read "german hops" and my brain told me "german malts". It is apparently just 2-row, C-60 and Honey malt. Anyway, I'd probably enjoy the beer more if they dialed back the sweetness.
  23. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (5,334) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    Supporter Beer Trader

    The Boston Lager that first came out was quite hoppy....not close to what it is today.
  24. herrburgess

    herrburgess Meyvn (1,035) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
    Industry Beer Trader

    If U.S. "craft" brewers of lagers would dial back their use of cheap 2-row malt, (typically excessive use of) C-hops, and (unfiltered) house yeasts then I'd probably enjoy their beers more. But apparently I'm in the minority here....
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  25. GeddyLeeRocks

    GeddyLeeRocks Initiate (158) Oct 14, 2012 Pennsylvania

  26. RichD

    RichD Champion (809) Mar 18, 2012 Rhode Island
    Beer Trader

    I looked and looked and I couldn't find any. I was quite disappointed.
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  27. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    I was just thinking about how much I used to enjoy Sam Adams beers not all too long ago. I basically grew up on the stuff and thought it was a solid craft option. I can't tell if they've gotten worse or if I've just been exposed to so many better beers. Definitely the latter, but I'm feeling like some of the former is true as well
  28. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    Just cracked this, and it reminded me this thread. This beer is wonderful. Jack's Abby Hoponius Union.
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  29. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,316) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Wolverine State Brewing makes some tasty ones that are only at the taproom.
  30. canucklehead

    canucklehead Poo-Bah (2,464) Mar 7, 2003 British Columbia (Canada)

    BC has Okanagan Springs Highly Hopped Lager and Parallel 49's Hopperazi. I agree that this will be a trend in 2013
  31. Auror

    Auror Defender (642) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    Looks like MA BA's are doing their part to carry out the secret plan to send out Hoponius Union in every single trade as an extra.
  32. BigMike

    BigMike Meyvn (1,264) May 8, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Bell's Quinannan Falls Lager
  33. fuzzylogic

    fuzzylogic Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I would have to agree although I'm drinking a Southern Tier 2x!PA and I forgot how good it is...
  34. Jaredp

    Jaredp Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    Flying Dog's Atlantic Lager aka Underdog! (Its not too hoppy but still a great beer)
  35. caseyoharaa

    caseyoharaa Disciple (341) Nov 15, 2009 California
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Humulus Lager Wet(Citra)

    Tasty shit!
  36. craigo19

    craigo19 Disciple (332) Oct 12, 2009 Michigan
    Supporter Beer Trader

    Wolverine State Brewing does Gulo Gulo which is an India Pale Lager and it does taste good.
  37. Dools9

    Dools9 Zealot (518) Jul 5, 2011 Massachusetts

  38. BigCheese

    BigCheese Defender (689) Jul 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    A good Munich Helles or Czech Pills. Augustiner Helles is my favorite.
  39. cleeze

    cleeze Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2008 Maine

    I can't wait to make the trek down. I was sold at hoponious union
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  40. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,229) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Sure, bring them on.
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