Hops Availability

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Thinking ahead for when we get around to selecting hops for the crowd IPA project...

    Is there any hop variety that currently simply can't be found anywhere, even in small quantities and (perhaps) high prices?

    I haven't had any trouble getting anything, but I bought bulk early for varieties that are typically scarce.
     
  2. porcelli426

    porcelli426 Oct 29, 2008 Colorado

    Amarillo is tough at the moment
     
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  3. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Citra is hard to find, but it can be done.
     
  4. OddNotion

    OddNotion Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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  5. michaeltrego

    michaeltrego May 21, 2004 New Hampshire
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    I have been watching out for Riwaka for a few months in all the usual places, but have come up empty so far...
     
  6. OddNotion

    OddNotion Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    I have really been wanting to try out Riwaka... I feel we will have better luck when the new harvest comes out in Spring. I havent seen them around this year either.
     
  7. michaeltrego

    michaeltrego May 21, 2004 New Hampshire
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    Yep, I think that will be the case unfortunately.
     
  8. tngolfer

    tngolfer Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    I have had trouble finding pellet Amarillo around locally but I can find leaf Amarillo. I think this is going to be a rough year for Simcoe.

    That being said, please include them in the future vote.
     
  9. koopa

    koopa Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey
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    Send me a beermail and I may be able to help you out....
     
  10. koopa

    koopa Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey
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    Send me a beermail and I may be able to help you out too!
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I just checked one of my favorite online vendors (Northern Brewer) and they list Amarillo as “Out of Stock” and Citra isn’t even listed as an option.

    Cheers!
     
  12. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Jul 26, 2006 Iowa

    I just used the last of my amarillo and simcoe, but I think I can get more.....THINK
     
  13. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    A lot of the ingredient sites I've used all say that Amarillo is gonna be super scarce till 2014 for homebrewers, but I've found a few places with Citra and Simcoe. Looks like ill be subbing Simcoe for Amarillo in the kern river Citra DIPA clone recipe.
     
  14. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    Farmhouse Brewing had some as of yesterday.
     
  15. mattsander

    mattsander Feb 3, 2010 Alberta (Canada)
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    Citra and Amarillo are the two hardest ones to find this year.
     
  16. kjyost

    kjyost May 4, 2008 Manitoba (Canada)

    Not in my freezer :p
     
  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I'm stocked pretty well, and my LHBS has PLENTY.
     
  18. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I haven't had any trouble getting anything. I stocked up some favorites in leaf and pellet, and my local store has piles and piles of leaf and pellet.

    But I think perhaps, while maybe taking another vote, we vote on hops, with the preface that people vote on maybe not what they like, but keep in mind what they can get as well. I'd hate to do a beer just because one guy says he can't get Simcoe, but at the same time, I'd had to be that guy left out because I'm the only one that can't get something as well. Kills the spirit of everyone doing so, but limited the "average" part if we limit it based on some parameters.
     
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  19. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    Not to re-gloat, but yeah - my better half is being really accommodating about the 4# of Citra, Simcoe and Amarillo taking up the ice cube space.
     
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  20. michaeltrego

    michaeltrego May 21, 2004 New Hampshire
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    Really? I looked yesterday, and just now, out of stock...
     
  21. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Some of the NZ hops are hard to find right now due to the time of year. They are getting really popular these days and they harvest on the opposite schedule from European and American hopfields (northern hemisphere vs. southern hemisphere). So they will show up in greater supply late spring when they harvest. Right now it's kind of like trying to find Citra, Amarillo, etc. mid-summer when the prior year's harvest has sold out but the current year's harvest hasn't hit yet.

    However, if you look around you can find some of the NZ varieties.
     
  22. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    +1 Amarillo, Riwaka and a maybe a few other NZ varieties (Mosaic seems pretty scarce...).

    That said, it would be nice to see a crowd-sourced hop schedule for this project that doesn't rely solely on "high-end" varieties for flavor and aroma additions. I've had some pretty freakin' amazing APA's/IPA's that only use cascade and/or centennial...
     
  23. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    There are a lot of the older hop varieties that don't get a lot of action anymore or at least don't get as much as they used to. You won't be able to get those berry and tropical fruit flavors from the older varieties but there's plenty to enjoy about blending more traditional hops together. You could rely on technique to deliver a different flavor profile, such as FWH plus hop bursting plus a complex dry hop schedule.
     
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  24. samtallica

    samtallica Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    Centennial is still my favorite hop! Cluster can provide some interesting flavors as well!
     
  25. premierpro

    premierpro Mar 21, 2009 Michigan
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    All you need are the 3 "C's". Cascade,Cluster,and Crystal!
     
  26. koopa

    koopa Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey
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    You forgot about 8 track players and quadraphonic sound systems......
     
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  27. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    "3 Cs"?...the standard West Coast "4 Cs" are Columbus, Cascade, Centennial, And Chinook although I'd throw Citra in there and make it the "5 Cs" : )
     
  28. nozferatu46

    nozferatu46 Mar 24, 2008 Indiana

    I've been able to get my hands on just about anything, but for the purposes of this project, I'd leave out the New Zealand varieties, and the ones people typically find hard to get (Simcoe, Amarillo, Citra). There are plenty of solid, relatively easy to find hops out there, that scream "average" IPA. Cascade, centennial, CTZ, Chinook, etc... You can easily create more than enough options with what is typically available (I don't think there is a centennial shortage this year at least...)
     
  29. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    We seem to have forgotten that Citra, Amarillo, Simcoe, et al, are not hard requirements for an IPA. ;)
     
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  30. mattbk

    mattbk Dec 12, 2011 New York

    I'd throw out Zythos as a choice as a more readily available alternative to Simcoe and Citra. And, may want to think about making one of the polls a choice between Amarillo, Citra, or Simcoe, say for flameout and/or dry-hop addition. If the beer contains nothing but these three, folks may have a tough time replicating.
     
  31. premierpro

    premierpro Mar 21, 2009 Michigan
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    I had a quadraphonic 8 track player in my bedroom when I was 12 years old! Time to turn up the Grand Funk Railroad!
     
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  32. Naugled

    Naugled Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    That's a great hop, I used up a pound in 2011, but haven't seen them since. I think Six Point had an all Riwaka beer last year, but that is gone too.
     
  33. jmw

    jmw Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Pretty sure this was sarcasm.

    That said, Crystal was difficult to find recently.
     
  34. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Not really being sarcastic...I've heard of the "4 Cs", but never the "3Cs"...especially including Crystal and Cluster
    (Cascade is one of the "4Cs")
     
  35. jmw

    jmw Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Agreed. And thus why I think premierpro was being sarcastic.
     
  36. premierpro

    premierpro Mar 21, 2009 Michigan
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    I put that statement out there for a reaction. However that combination would make a tasty IPA.
     
  37. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Duh...gottcha
     
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