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Hops vs. Malt

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SerialTicker, Jan 2, 2013.

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What do you generally like your beers to have more of?

  1. Hops

    104 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. Malt

    78 vote(s)
    42.9%
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  1. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    I searched around the forums and was sort of wondering why no one did a poll regarding this (if someone did, I couldn't find it).

    Do you prefer beers that have more of a hop presence (IPAs and such), or ones that are heavier on malts (Browns and stouts/porters, etc.)?

    I'm sure a bunch of people would love to say "BOTH!"... and that includes me. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION! Personally, I'd choose hoppier beers.
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    It depends on the style I am thirsty for.
     
  3. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    Well yeah, same. But I'm asking one of those hypothetical cliches that are like, "If you were stranded on an island..."
     
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  4. jgk2255

    jgk2255 Jan 13, 2012 Michigan

    Germany makes the best beer in the world and they are often more malt forward.
     
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  5. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    I would expect "the older crowd" to prefer maltier beers just because I get the impression that "classic" beer has a maltier taste. Probably not true, but just from experience.
     
  6. BigCheese

    BigCheese Jul 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    I hate questions like this, kinda oversimplifying beer into two extremes.

    I enjoy all styles of beers that showcase both malts, hops and both. My favorite styles are admittedly IPAs / DIPAs so I guess I prefer beers that feature hop flavors.

    A important side note. You can't make beer without malts. You can make beer without hops.
     
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  7. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    I know this. There's a tasty beer in Detroit that uses Chamomile flowers in place of hops.
     
  8. VonZipper

    VonZipper Feb 9, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    I love hops. I even started putting full cone sorachi ace in my seltzer.
     
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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  10. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew May 29, 2011 Florida
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    Neglecting Yeast! Hefeweizen for example. Overall, I prefer malt forward beer like porters, browns, stouts, scotch & scottish ales, etc. but hop forward beers still blow my fucking mind. For me Malt > Hop > Yeast.
     
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  11. VonZipper

    VonZipper Feb 9, 2011 New York
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    Technically, I am stranded on an island. Today I'd probably say hops, but tomorrow it could change. Depends on what I'm in the mood to drink.
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Seriously, even the most hop forward beers have alot more malt in them than hops, so I'm going malt. Hops can't take away the pain of a long day at my shitty job...
     
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  13. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Anyone who answers "Hops" is crazy!

    Your typical barrel (31 gallons) of generously hopped craft IPA would have ~2-3 lbs of hops and at least 55-60lbs of malt. If you reduced the malt to be less than the hops, it would be watery, nearly alcohol-free, and just taste like hop water. If you increased the hops to exceed the malt, you would have some kind of crazy hop vegetable stew.

    This is a weird poll.
     
  14. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
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  15. BigCheese

    BigCheese Jul 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    If you're in Germany you are correct. If you are in any other part of the world, than no, it isn't illegal.
     
  16. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Or just not using hops and saying you did. If you were a small operation nobody would ever know the difference.
     
  17. GregoryVII

    GregoryVII Jan 30, 2006 Michigan

    No, but you could make "ale" in England back when the contrast between ale and beer was the use of hops. It's all semantics, but I've enjoyed many a tasty hop free ales/beers whatever you would like to call it.
     
  18. steveh

    steveh Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Well, many of the best German beers are well-balanced with the two ingredients highlighting each other.
     
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  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    It is not even a law anymore, the EU struck it down, read the History part. They even allow Hopfenextrakt these days.

    The original said nothing about yeast.
     
  20. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I must be bringing a brutal poker face to the forums today.... My sarcastic remarks have all been taken very seriously.... :confused:
     
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  21. GregoryVII

    GregoryVII Jan 30, 2006 Michigan

    I believe the question is about the balance, BU:GU. Obviously more malt is used, but depending on the ratio a beer can definitely be hop forward.
     
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  22. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    The smiley helps define your remarks!
     
  23. KWMiles

    KWMiles Oct 23, 2012 Minnesota

    It's clearly broken: I can't select both options.
     
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  24. Crusader

    Crusader Feb 4, 2011 Sweden

    A beer needs to be more on the bitter side for me to enjoy it. It should ideally be malty as well, preferably bready in taste rather than simply sweet, but if it doesn't have that cut-through bitterness I tend to feel as though the beer is too sweet. I don't need a citrusy or grape hop punch though, a European hoppiness of Hallertau varieties combined with an elevated IBU will do just fine.

    A tasty German pilsner is one of those styles of beer which never leaves you feeling tired, for better or worse, each sip is as refreshing as the first.
     
  25. Popp24

    Popp24 Nov 5, 2010 California

    Hops all the way! I can't stand an IPA/DIPA that has too much malt; bring on the hopiness. I'm am fine with a balanced IPA but once they start getting to malty they just become to cloying.
     
  26. Popp24

    Popp24 Nov 5, 2010 California

    I just drink the beer I don't brew so I wasn't aware of that. So the poll would need to be rephrased. That being said I like IPA's that are more hop forward/
     
  27. wobblymailman

    wobblymailman Nov 19, 2006 Massachusetts

  28. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Ummmm. Hopheads like hops. Non-hopheads do not like hops.
     
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  29. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Its a forum condom... ;)
     
  30. herrburgess

    herrburgess Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    There's a German saying that malt is the soul of beer and hops are the spice. I don't like soulless beers (of which there are a very large number in U.S. craft brewing). I prize balance above all.
     
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  31. FosterJM

    FosterJM Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    I will say malts. Only because of barrel aged stouts and english barleywines.

    Cheers!
     
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  32. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I thought I remember hearing that you need to add at least a nominal amount of hops in a beer to have it be a 'beer' in the eyes of the law in the US.

    Something about DFH and their Sah'Tea.... anyone? anyone?
     
  33. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    In the US, to be considered a "malt beverage" under the FAA Act that the TTB administers, it must contain both malt and hops:
    Otherwise, it is still a "beer" under the Internal Revenue Code, but would have to follow FDA labeling requirements. Apparently, most brewers are more comfortable dealing with the TTB (aka "the devil they know") rather than the FDA.

    See also http://www.ttb.gov/rulings/2008-3.pdf for more legalese, that ends with:

     
  34. ColonelCash

    ColonelCash Jul 6, 2011 Tennessee

    This is like asking "do you prefer the T, or the A, good sir?"
     
  35. taxman

    taxman Feb 22, 2012 Illinois

    Both, at different times!
     
  36. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    I meant in the flavor. Not the actual amount added to each barrel. Of course an actual larger amount of hops over malt in a barrel would be foul. Should have specified I guess.
     
  37. TongoRad

    TongoRad Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
    Beer Trader

    If a beer disappoints me it's usually because of a shallow malt profile, so I voted malt, even though I prefer beers of all stripes.
     
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  38. steveh

    steveh Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Try making a beer without it.

    Better yet, try drinking a beer (even though it wouldn't really be beer) without it -- I bet you'd be surprised how much you don't like it.
     
  39. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    I'm not a hop head, but i like hops.
     
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  40. hopsputin

    hopsputin Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey

    malt bombs to the face, please
     
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