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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by jpro, Feb 5, 2013.
The mental image of this literally made me laugh out loud.
To a point. Being quiet in a BAR so as not to upset some grumpy patron doesn't make the test.
not true. I wish it was, but it isn't. If the people are acting inappropriate for the bar, then the bar needs to send them on their way. If as a regular you do not like that atmosphere then you should speak up to the staff and hope they act accordingly next time.
Holy fuckin' cow batman, how can anyone double-fist hopslam?
It's a waste. And a waste of perfectly good hopslam. And dumb. I understand the drunken party daze, but I was young and stupid then. And drank mostly malt liquor, occasionally springing for St Pauli Girl when I wanted to get "fancy."
Nowadays I'm older, wiser, and prefer to imbibe in moderation, enjoying "better beer, but less of it."
I think your only recourse would be to go get some 40's and double-fist them before kicking assess first, and taking names later.
Seriously tho, the establishment should limit hopslam. I know it's not the most rare beer ever, but if I was a regular customer and had come in a half hour later and learned of this story, I'd be a little pissed. Or if I was a tourist and found "hopslam on tap" online and came in to find it sold out, again, I'd be a little pissed.
You don't see what's wrong with them as in, "Hey, what's wrong with them anyway?" or as in, "I don't see anything wrong with them"?
I just don't think you should have to change what you're doing because some inconsiderate pricks don't know how to behave like adults.
They're just trying to look like the guy on the hopslam label
...but you should expect them to change what they are doing. Got it.
A "small, low key, beer-centric establishment" is not really the same thing as a bar. I'll go to the former and generally avoid the latter.
Don't blame the Hopslam. The same thing could happen anytime, anywhere and for any reason.
That's how he describes it. We only have 1 side of the story.
as in "I don't see anything wrong with them"?.
I agree it sucks, but it is part of life. As I said, it is up to the bar to make the rules. By them serving the crowd and allowing them to act that way, they are saying it is okay and as a customer you need to put up with it if you want to be there. Try this at a suit and tie restaurant and you will be kicked out, as you might at some bars. This particular bar decided this behavior is okay.
I can't agree with this. Who gets to decide what is and isn't a beer worthy of "limited purchase"?
Came in and found out it's sold out? Bummer but hardly the fault of the bar. The bar isn't going to restrict purchase so Hopslam lasts until the end of August. Say they do limit it to one pint per night - does missing out because you were the 53rd person in line really make it okay over missing out because you were number 10?
I'd think that if the bar goes back to his distributor and says "remember those 4 kegs of Hopslam you sold me yesterday - I need another 4 today" - that's a GOOD thing for the bar and the guy who services that account.
Maybe it's because Hopslam just isn't that hard to get in my town. Was at the liquor store on Sat - there were at least 20 6 packs available with no restrictions. I just don't get the "it's rare you have to share" mentality.
Screw that - if they got the goods and I got the cash - I'm buying what I want.
Don't like it? Get there earlier, order more, don't be bitter - be better.... (particularly if you know the item in question is high demand)
You're talking about the grumpy dude who doesn't like it when others are having a good time with friends right? I hate those guys too. As long as I'm not talking to you leave me be to have my fun, I'll be considerate enough to let you do the same. In the end if you can't stand my group enjoying themselves talk to the bar tender, odds are they side with the bigger bar tab and more tips.
This is why I do all my drinking outside of the house at the library.
That is how it appears to the OP, and possibly some of us. However, to the group, it looked like a fun bar with an awesome beer on tap that they could have fun and be rowdy at.
Right. Kind of like when it's 11 o'clock at night I want my neighbor's dog to shut the fuck up. Considerate neighbors get that; inconsiderate neighbors don't.
As for why we only have 1 side of the story, it's because there's only one person who has a grievance. The other people don't really give a shit because nobody was bothering them.
Yin and Yang all the way!
It's everywhere if you look for it.
It's actually nothing like it. If the drunks were a hootin' and a hollerin' in your living room, then it would be like that. The drunks were enjoying themselves in a bar. You don't like it? Leave.
Well, I have tried to look briefly through all post but I came up this original thought. This sounds like a beer troll! It sort of sounds like a bunch of people targeted a certain beer that us geeks love and ran with it. Hey, remember there has been cases of such disdain for us beer geeks that this is no surprise.
All of this did happen in a bar, on a Saturday night. It was at a BAR, not the library. No problem.
It is the symbol used in the Wheel of Time series too! But I made that reference to what you made of the other side which makes sense. Sure I love going out and having a beer or two and when I know it is my limit, I stop.
Sometimes both sides of an argument are not equally valid.
So what your are saying is that a group of friends decided to drink copious amounts of 10% abv DIPA that I'm guessing wasn't cheap just to spite craft beer fans?
Meh. It's just a beer. You can find equal or better beer virtually anywhere these days.
Oh yes! You should see some of the sick things kids are doing in Philadelphia, and if you look at the bad trader list, there was one kid who even call beer geeks fags, so hey nothing is out of the question....
Please don't call 911 if you "think" someone is drunk. If you see them all over the road, fair enough, but speculation someone is "drunk" is not an "emergency".
Impersonating an officer is generally a more severe criminal infraction than DUI. It would suck if you pulled that routine on an actual off duty officer. And its quite likely one of them could have been, as I party with lots of law enforcement, and let me tell you, those are some of the loudest, rowdiest and most obnoxious people I know.
If you want to control the company you keep while drinking, don't drink in public. Craft bars are not houses of worship. Consumers need not concern themselves with how limited a beer is. Nevertheless, sorry they ruined your time
A pox on their branded glassware!
I have to say I see both sides on this one. Sometimes you want to go to a bar and have a more relaxed atmosphere and sometimes you want to go and get a little rowdy. I understand being a little peeved if you pick a bar known for its chill atmosphere and a bunch of guys show up and turn it into a rave, but I also think when you go out to a bar on a Saturday night that's ultimately the risk you run. If you don't like it stand up and take your business to another bar without the rowdy folks. If there isn't another decent option, then that's unfortunate, but you can hardly blame the other guys for coming to this particular bar if there isn't any other choice.
I'm hopeful that as craft beer goes mainstream and there are more bars with awesome tap lists there will start to be more differentiation by atmosphere / clientele. It's already starting to happen in a lot of places. I think craft beer going more mainstream will actually really help with this problem.
Side note: I am soooooo tired of the term "beer geek". That is all.
Meh. You pick your battles by going out for beer in public on a weekend. Also, it's a limited release of an extremely popular beer and that was probably one of the few kegs left in town that someone zero'd in on who was probably a regular and wanted their buddies to experience it. No reason to get philosophical about it and blame craft brewing getting popular. It is. But, this kind of shitshow happens at innumerable breweries with limited releases that are extremely popular, and let's not forget to mention the numerous times and events where it's the "experts" themselves going for broke and doing a bang up job of it.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that.
However, if hopslam is really rare (which apparently isn't the case in your town), then there is some merit to limiting its purchase amounts.
The bar may value its bottom line over its serving beer to their regulars or to tourists. That's also fine. It may or may not win you more loyalty and thus revenue in the future. That's a decision bar management needs to make.
But if RR allowed the first however many customers to buy all of the PtY without regard for the rest, they would surely suffer a shitstorm.
This situation is obviously not the same as RR's PtY, but there are some similar considerations to make when serving highly sought out, but relatively rare seasonal or one-time offerings.
Thank you for the warning. I will now be more vigilant when it comes to watching out for roaming hoards of people who want to drink all of my precious craft beer while calling me a fag for liking the same liquid they are so mercilessly guzzling.
I wish all my friends knew what a Hopslam was. I'm the guy that drinks wierd beers.
Well, I hope that in all seriousness you take my words in kindness and respect. I just know the world is crazy and things are happening even if we would not like them to.
You need to get new friends. Better friends. Your friends suck.