How do you adjust hop additions for variations in alpha acids?

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  1. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    When I first started brewing, I used to adjust all the hops in my recipe to account for variations in the AAs versus what I had planned. ie, let's say I planned on a 40 IBU addition, but the hops I bought had lower AAs versus what I had planned in the recipe, I would add more of them to adjust. I would do this for all the additions in my recipe (excluding dry hops).

    Later, when I thought about it, I wasn't sure this was correct for late flavor/aroma hop additions, since I figured alpha acids didn't necessarily correlate to essential oil content. So, I decided to cease adjusting additions 30 minutes and under, and only adjust the bittering addition to account for different alphas in other hop additions.

    Then, reading "Hops" last night, there was a statement about how high oil content correlates fairly well to high alpha content, which makes sense for popular American types like Citra, Simcoe, Amarillo, Centennial, CTZ etc. This makes me think it may even be a good idea to adjust dry hopping rates to account for AA content, as well as all the other bittering/flavor/aroma additions.

    So fellow BAers: how do you adjust your hop additions to account for variations in AAs? Do you adjust all the additions, only the bittering addition, or not at all?

    Thanks.
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    All additions are adjusted to hit the IBU target, except for the dry hop amounts. More dry hopping can be easily added to taste if there is not enough from the first charge.
     
  3. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I do adjust the amount of hop additions in regards of AA% variation , mainly for bitterness and flavor additions to get my BU:GU target. Aroma additions do not need to be adjusted, IMHO
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I only adjust for bittering units. I do not adjust for aroma.

    Cheers!
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I generally only adjust the bittering addition, to hit the same total IBUs (including the changed AA contributions of the flavor/aroma hops). IOW, I don't assume that the flavor/aroma compounds will be proportional to the AAs, rather I assume they will be roughly constant. I'll also add that neither assumption is probably correct. But you gotta pick something.
     
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  6. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I adjust for bittering and aroma additions (using the logic you posted from Hops). I also arbitrarily reduce the alpha amount by 10% annually for stored hops, but admit that figure was acquired from my rectal database. That's for hops vacuumed sealed in a freezer. Other techniques?
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is a link to an article on this topic. The ‘executive summary’ of the article is:“How Long Will Hops Last?

    Like most things in brewing, the answer is, "It depends." If you keep them very cold and free from oxygen, hops should last a few years. It's not uncommon for hop brokers to be selling pelletized and vacuum-sealed hops from two or three seasons ago. Commercial breweries continue to use last year's crop well into the current year's harvest. This is not to say that the oils and a-acids will be exactly the same as when you purchased them, but the hops won't be "bad"; hops are not considered "bad" until they get below 50% of their original a-acid value (5), at which point the degree of oxidation will produce a definitely cheesy aroma.”

    http://brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue2.1/garetz.html

    Cheers!
     
  8. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    I mostly adjust only the bittering and flavor (more than 30 min). Aroma hop rate stays the same.
     
  9. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    Haha i love when there's no consensus! Something tells me this applies for pros as well - everyone probably does something different.

    Perhaps someone will correlate oils to alphas someday - until then will just have to guess... thx.
     
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  10. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Does anyone not adjust their recipes at all to embrace the variability of hops?
     
  11. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I pretty much put together my hop schedule for hop forward beers backwards nowadays. For me its just easier, and it makes more sense in my mind. After the whirlpool, FO, 1, 5 & 10 additions (where applicable) are calculated, then I determine the quantity, timing, and sometimes even type of bittering hop that I use to get to the desired level of IBUs/BU:GU. So, in that respect, I guess you can say that I adjust my bittering charge moreso - but a lot of times my later additions get tweaked a bit too.

    EDIT: For most non-hop forward beers, it's a bittering charge only. Or a bittering charge and one later addition, with the timing being the main variable to get to the bitterness level I'm after.
     
    #11 FeDUBBELFIST, Jan 7, 2014
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