Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by CraftFan5, Oct 24, 2022.
Please, BA braintrust, help me resolve a disagreement between my friend and me.
What does your friend think of “Pumpkin beer” and I’ll be inclined to reply more in depth.
I don't want to bias the poll or the discussion. I want to see where this goes before I give each of our takes.
I like a select few based on the historic of it in America's although nowadays is more a novelty tasting like ice cream or pie.
Lancaster has a very good one
Bought one this year after years of not because it was good when we had it in a flight.
Right now it's "cool" to hate on pumpkin spice anything, so you're probably going to see an overall negative sentiment. It'll pass, just like hate for "fruit beers," lagers, NA beers, hard seltzer, etc.
I'm a fan of pumpkin pie. But keep the gourds out of the beer, they are either earthy and meh or a total bakery bomb like so much Christmas beer to follow
Keep the beer hearty and pass me the desserts in the colder months. Even the best example for me is a one and done at best, I'm not an adjunct purist just don't want baking spices in the beer imitating a dessert that's better left in the dessert.
A lot depends on the beer has actual pumpkin in it, just "pumpkin spices", or some unholy combination thereof. All are nasty.
I deliberately left out this option: "I like it because it hearkens back to the roots of American brewing when brewers utilized the sugars inherent in pumpkins to trigger fermentation."
Now you are biasing the polling
Wait, pumpkin is fermentable?
Well, the pumpkin was more so used to provide starches which are converted to sugars during the mashing process with malt.
If you are interested you can go to the below link and download an article to learn more.
So far I have purchased the Elysian Pumpkin mix 12-pack and earlier today I selected two bottles of Flying Dog The Fear Pumpkin beers.
I don't think your options capture the essence of how I would respond. I can see where you're headed, though. Cheers.
I should have phrased it like a standardized test: choose the best answer
Not sure I can say they all objectively taste "bad", but....
There's so much better beer out there especially in the fall. Festbiers, Marzens, Vienna, Amber, Brown, Winter Warmers. Not to mention the other German and Belgian options. I can't remember even remotely craving a pumpkin beer. Didn't drink one this year and probably don't see myself going forward.
Except pie, I hate anything with actual pumpkin (squash) in it, but love about anything with pumpkin-spice. I've tried many pumpkin and pumpkin-spice beers, and liked almost none. Seems like they struggle with sweetness - too sweet or too bitter. Prairie Basic Becky and Schlafly BA Pumpkin are two of the best IMHO. Avery Rumpkin would be incredible with less sugar.
You are both wrong.
Can we move on now?
Not yet. I'll cast my vote then I want 10 more votes. 50 should be sufficient to reach an "inconclusive" conclusion.
Unless your friend can vote here, I think it is only fair for you to abstain from this very scientific poll.
I like the concept of pumpkin beers but most of them aren’t to my liking. There are a couple that I like. One year I tried as many as I could and I would say 1/4 of them I liked and 1/8 I would buy again. Usually buy a few annually of the select few I do like.
I have been frustrated because I failed to check BA ratings/reviews before purchasing and too many smell like pumpkin then taste like Bud/Miller/Coors
51 votes. Results appear inconclusive, but I am leaning toward declaring victory.
Here is the relevant exchange:
E-mail from Twelve Percent Beer Project:
Greetings Abomination Beer Fan-
We have a very exciting barrel aged beer to be released!
Introducing Veil Splitter, a 13.6% Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout aged since last Halloween in Heaven Hill barrels, then conditioned on pumpkin, spice and vanilla.
Me (to my friend): so angry about this
Me: pumpkin, spice and vanilla
Him: It's pumpkin and spice
Me: double whammy
Him: Bro because pumpkin beer is dope as freaking hell
Me: bro, nobody likes pumpkin. Sure, folks will have one or two beers around holiday time when they come out, but then they'll remember how bad they are. that's why pumpkin beers sit on the shelf all freaking year. seriously, go to the store, find the pumpkin beers, and check the dates. You'll see they're all not fresh
Him: Bro. First off. I love pumpkin. Literally love it.
Me: In beer? I mean I like pumpkin pie, but it is objectively a bad beer ingredient
Him: Subjectively. Can't be objective. It's a preference.
Me: Objectively. Literally (not figuratively) every pumpkin beer would be better without pumpkin. The only exception being an old style that relied on the pumpkin sugars for fermentation. There's no real reason for pumpkin beer to otherwise exist.
Him: That is your opinion. Hence subjective. There is enough of a market that they make them.
Me: I'm gonna put up a poll on BA. If I'm wrong I'll change my tune.
Him: And your tone.
Me: Hah, yes. I will change it from haughtily superior to meekly apologetic.
My pumpkin mood varies. This year I'm not really feelin' it. When I am, Schlafly and Williamsburg Alewerks are the favorites. But even then, one or two and I'm done.
If it is less than 7% ABV I usually steer clear any more. I chase it with dark rum if does in fact suck.
The amount of bros I can tell you are from jersey without looking hahahaha. I've lived the previous 28 Years of my life there. And I can't stop saying it either. I call my girl "bro"
I buy Schlafly Pumpkin...that's it...that's the list...it's the best for my $
Lol, I actually never say "bro." I spent the first 35 years of my life in New York City, just moved to Jersey a few years ago. I'm more likely to say "man" or "buddy" or "champ."
I get certain ones*, because ....I like them , and no other reason.
*Keuka Pumpkin Cream Ale
Prison City Pumpkin Escobar (coffee porter , w/ pumpkin)
Beer Tree Mashing Pumpkins
Two Roads Roadsmary's Baby
** The Farmhouse Carrot Bucket , a cream ale made when the local carrot harvest comes in. Not pumpkin, but in the same vein, at the same time, for the same reason - a fall harvest beer.
I drank my first pumpkin beer of the 'season' this evening: Flying Dog The Fear. I very much enjoyed drinking that beer!!
Don't fear The Fear!!
I guess the closest one for me is the 3rd choice. Some pumpkin beers I like a lot. Most don't interest me, but I don't hate them or anything.
I enjoy one or two a year. I actually prefer the ones that back off the pie spices a bit.
Not found one I like.
These are NOT pumpkin beers but spice beers.
Brew me a nice brown ale with roasted pumpkin and I’m in. I had a squash saison that was great, no spices. Earthy saison with a nice squash in the end.
Again, the spice is just not something I enjoy. When I make pumpkin pie I use cinnamon , light ginger and a dash of nutmeg. I use brown sugar and it it works really well.
Big fan of "yert" "bro" "neff" "MF" and use them interchangeably.
Does the carrot beer have spices? I had a great carrot beer from Fonta Flora, no spice just carrot IPA and it was really good.
Feels like you have not had a pumpkin beer but have had Spice beers.
I don't mind pumpkin beers, I mind the over use of the spices in the beer.
That's all you taste.
Some are more restrained than others.
If someone would brew a pumpkin beer with little to no spices, I'd try it.
Nothing worse than copious amounts of cinnamon and nutmeg wrecking your palate.
I normally pass on pumpkin beers unless I’m handed one but Pumking is an exception. I’ll get a couple 4 packs leading up to Halloween to get in the spirit. It’s overall the best macro pumpkin beer I’ve had.
Haz you met sugar?