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Discussion in 'Southwest' started by BgThang, Jan 27, 2013.
shows how much i keep up with BA anymore
You where living in a disgusted state of how the Texans can send 50% of the offense to the Pro Bowl and not the Super Bowl.
did schaub even throw a TD in the pro bowl. I only half ass watched it.
1 td and 2 interceptions. By far the worst QB rating of ALL of the Pro Bowl QBs.
Wait, I think he just threw another int.
Founders Update . . .
Though several states have been mentioned in reports, Co-Founder, Dave Engbers, told [another site] on Friday that the company is under contract negotiations in three states: Texas, Florida and Maryland. An MLive.com report from November also mentioned Tennessee, West Virginia and Delaware. Engbers said that they have had talks in other states but that finalizing the other three are a first priority.
Engbers confirmed that they are still looking at April as a target for Texas though he declined to provide timing specifics on Florida or Maryland...
Its amazing that we will be getting great brews from Founders, Southern Tier, and Firestone, even Ballast Point! However, its sucks that Houston will be getting it so late after other TX markets. Arrrogance aside, shouldn't the largest market get first pick? I understand that they want to open up new venues and getting into Austin and DFW is two new areas, but the consumers are here in H-town!
The Austinites will argue that they drink more beer per capita than either Houston or DFW, and that is why Austin is being chosen for the initial release.
Zip codes with the most bars in the USA per capita...
1. 78701 (Austin, TX), pop. 3,855: 80
2. 10003 (New York, NY), pop. 53,673: 73
3. 70130 (New Orleans, LA), pop. 14,891: 63
4. 60614 (Chicago, IL), pop. 65,474: 60
5. 60657 (Chicago, IL), pop. 66,789: 54
6. 60610 (Chicago, IL), pop. 47,513: 54
7. 10009 (New York, NY), pop. 58,595: 53
8. 53202 (Milwaukee, WI), pop. 20,967: 52
9. 10002 (New York, NY), pop. 84,870: 52
10. 96817 (Honolulu, HI), pop. 52,044: 51
26. 77006 (Houston, TX), pop. 18,875: 36
Austin may be at the top of that list, but it only appears on the list once. Houston has two zip codes on that list.
I'm happy for Austin and everything but the whole "local movement" there would make me choose a different market to jump into 1st. Sure beer nerds will drink up the founders/FSW/etc but the hipster and common man I feel would choose 512/Austin product over a "foreign to Austin/TX" product.
Also... my god I need to get up to Chicago.
Hipsters will stick to their PBR!
I wish they would in Dallas.
Yes. I was sent some Founders RIS and woah, amazing. Looking forward to Abril!
Rainey street is filled with horrible bars and one or two great ones. I'd like to see a % of those bars that don't have an annoying DJ on a weekend night. I bet in its heyday Deep Ellum was close to that number but then people started getting shot. It's not for me to decide which is better dodging bullets or STD's
Good stats, but drinking more beer per capita does not always equate to more CRAFT beer. Certainly not arguing the point that we all love a good brew. It will be a beautiful day when I can wander down to the local shop and get some KBS off the shelf. I understand why they are marketing the way they are. I don't have to be happy about. Its also understandable that another of the reasons that the breweries are doing this is because I am sure they know that more of the Houston folks would be willing to travel to ATX and DFW for the good stuff then the other way around.
Many of us here are still ticked that Dissident didn't make it this far south, but it did cross the Red River. Someday we will live in a beer paradise. Until then a beer nerd can dream...can't he?
6th street is why Austin is #1 on that list and very few of those bars are "craft beer bars".
Not trying to pick a fight man...but this is just ridiculous. I'd bet everything I own that this was never a factor in deciding where to roll out their product. It's probably due to Austin's reputation...fastest growing city in the nation with an eclectic attitude. It's centralized in the state and our population is still considerably less than Houston or Dallas metro areas which makes it an easier rollout product wise.
This is probably nail on the head.
FWIW, I've seen no indication that Founders will be limited to one or two markets in TX when they debut here in the Spring. The latest I've heard on Southern Tier (and I'm still not holding my breath) is that they're in negotiations with Silver Eagle, which covers only Houston and SATX. I'm not sure which vendors they're courting for other markets, if any.
Ultimately, I think distribution factors into new brewery rollouts more than anything else. If BEK isn't carrying a brand statewide, then that makes it difficult to make your product available statewide, doesn't it? I'd imagine that negotiating a contract with one distributor is hard enough. Try doing it with 3-4.
pwsoldier, thank you for the information. Its always great to get educated like that.
lokieman, as long as we don't resort to name calling, I've got no fight with anyone. I appreciate differing points of view and I take what I can from each conversation.
I'm not holding my breath on Southern Tier. They appear to be dragging their feet.
I would actually prefer if all of these new breweries stagger thier TX releases, so I'm not spending $1000 on beer within 2 weeks...
BEK is the distributor handling Founders for the state from what I've heard. This means Houston will be in.
Good ole Bennieee
Good news but not great news. Houston seems to get 3rd pick after DFW and Austin with anything distributed by Ben E Keith. Just look at the recent limited Deschutes releases...
What Deschutes releases?
I coulda swore that Houston was by far seeing the most growth over the past 10 years thanks to literately 1/2 of New Orleans moving here in 05/06 and, Jobs. You can't walk down the street here without tripping over 10 jobs and a career or two lol
Maybe in the long game, Houston is winning but I know last year Round Rock and Austin were #2 & #3 reapectively in Population growth percentage wise in the US for cities over 100,000 people (~4%)
New Orleans is actually #1 due to people actually moving back. I actually know a few tech people that moved there for job ops recently.
Fun fact: Austin proper surpassed San Francisco proper in population in 2012. WHO R TEH HIPPIEST NOW?!
o rly? - BRB let me see if NOLA needs a SysAdmin real quick lol
Shelf Cantillon and 3F as far as the eye can see!
You're right about Houston being the last stop on the BEK train, but Deschutes is probably a bad example since neither Houston or Austin get Deschutes from BEK.
Yeah, Deschutes is CBC in Austin, who is probably the worst distro in the world 90% of the time.
Yeah, No......Here's Crime Maps featuring New Orleans vs Houston Heights (where I live now) - No thanks, I'm good.
It's all so hard to keep track of! I know being last affects things like Stone releases. I remember we had to wait at least 3 weeks for Stone 16th to show up here after DFW.
I dont know about shelf Cantillon, but yes on the 3F. Coulda bought 20 bottles of Golden Blend last time I was in Baton Rouge.
I don't think BEK does Deschutes. The BEK people mentioned another distributor in Houston.
Got this in the mail today...