you hit the nail on the head... at those prices.... And I really don't mind shelling out $$ for good beer. but I get grumpy when I feel like $ are being tossed into a well. Never really thought about the boozy vs acetone before. that is spot-on. it's the acetone that's off-putting. as for 120 min, it's a nonstarter for me. That beer made me realize that I simply don't like hoppy beers over 12%. They lose their refreshing character at that point.