I think i got duped, feedback please.

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  1. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    So i completed a trade and got an Assassin on my end. I just received my package and It looks like my Assassin was resealed and rewaxed. I havn't contacted the trader, yet I wanted to get your feedback first.

    Here are pictures compared to other assassin bottles I have
    1) The fill is low
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    2) No smoothness, my two real bottles have lines right below cap, the dupe doesn't
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    3)Again, no smoothness from a different angle
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    4) The wax drip in the dupe starts off from the cap....and the bottle is slightly taller
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    #1 yoitsarch, Dec 6, 2014
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  2. itracy63

    itracy63 Disciple (389) Apr 20, 2013 Washington

    Already can't wait to see where this thread goes. I'm dying to know what's in the bottle?
     
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  3. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    Ill open it in a bit, won't drink it but the I'll be able to pick up the nose
     
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  4. F2brewers

    F2brewers Champion (800) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Premium Trader

    srsly.

    i know we don't do the gif thing here, but if ever that michael jacksn eating popcorn one was appropriate, this is it. :slight_smile:

    OP, if it is not legit, i eagerly await the bad trader thread that will inevitably follow.

    there was another thread asking about this kind of thing not long ago:

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/fake-whale.230057/#post-2994079
     
  5. HoppySeb

    HoppySeb Crusader (747) Jan 21, 2014 Washington

    Could that someone have cracked it open, taken an oz. or so out, filled with CO2 and released & re-waxed it?
    Not sure if the carbonation would still be there, but based on experience with growlers I think it'd last for a few days.
    Definitely grabbing some popcorn and hitting refresh tonight on this one.
     
  6. Blahstarr

    Blahstarr Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California

    That is a pretty sketchy wax job to say the least. Unless it was dipped by someone that really hated their life that day, I would call bs. Sorry mang
     
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  7. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    Definitely not assassin. Its a stout for sure, not barrel aged. Smells like Founders Imperial stout

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  8. Immutable_Dusk

    Immutable_Dusk Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2013 Illinois

  9. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (422) Feb 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Well, are you gonna do it?
     
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  10. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Devotee (440) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia
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    Damn, that's a whole new level of douchery; to actively seek to deceive someone.
     
  11. HoppySeb

    HoppySeb Crusader (747) Jan 21, 2014 Washington

    Wow! So sorry to hear that man.
    Time to call out the perpetrator, I guess. So who sent you this?
     
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  12. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    the wonderful trader is @Leazk
     
  13. Toner

    Toner Initiate (108) Jan 14, 2014 California
    Trader

    Damn..now that you know..we need to know!
     
  14. Toner

    Toner Initiate (108) Jan 14, 2014 California
    Trader

    Ty...fing shady
     
  15. striker2160

    striker2160 Disciple (337) May 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Wow apparently I am witnessing a new low. I must say this looks really bad.
     
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  16. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Devotee (440) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia
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    This is why we should allow memes :wink:
     
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  17. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    Similar situation happened to me, unfortunately we were the first to get victimized
     
  18. BlumBeer

    BlumBeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2012 Florida

    @chardlogic you traded with this guy! you see this shit!!!

    Edit: OP, this completely sucks and is one of the scummiest, shadiest things ive ever seen in the beer world, but i am eagerly watching to see how this unfolds
     
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  19. bluewolf17

    bluewolf17 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2013 Maryland

    @chardlogic What did you trade for and how does it look?
     
  20. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Zealot (580) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I'm sorry to hear about the shadyness, but its threads like these that keep me entertained when I'm working late at the office on a Friday
     
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  21. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Zealot (580) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    OP what did you have to give up for this bottle?
     
  22. BlumBeer

    BlumBeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2012 Florida

    2/3 feed back left doesnt scream stand up BA.. "Lack of extras" on one..and "lack of communication" on other
     
  23. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (422) Feb 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    This will go one of two ways:

    Scenario 1 - he comes back guns blazing and tries to turn it around on OP.

    Scenario 2 - crickets

    ...
     
  24. HoppyBastard1

    HoppyBastard1 Devotee (414) Apr 29, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    The only positive here is that if it is indeed Founders Imperial Stout, you ended up with a better beer than this years Assassin! Still pretty shady ass thing for a trader to do.
     
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  25. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    I gave him a vanilla rye and an almanac farmers reserve as an extra.
     
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  26. chardlogic

    chardlogic Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2011 Florida

    No way! I indeed traded with this guy. Someone seriously is going to great lengths to deceive?!
     
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  27. BlumBeer

    BlumBeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2012 Florida

    @CHSASVbeer, looks like you didnt have such a smooth trade with him either....care to elaborate?
     
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  28. chardlogic

    chardlogic Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2011 Florida

    Also, Vanilla Rye on my end, plus some extras.
     
  29. bluewolf17

    bluewolf17 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2013 Maryland

    Lol.. the cap on my DB Cake is black and in pictures on Google I can clearly see the cap is gold. Awesome.
     
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  30. bluewolf17

    bluewolf17 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2013 Maryland

    I also traded him Vanilla Rye.
     
  31. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    What did you give up?
     
  32. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (422) Feb 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Wow, I'm gonna go with crickets. Sorry you guys all got swindled, that sucks big time.
     
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  33. BlumBeer

    BlumBeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2012 Florida

    :angry::angry:
     
  34. bluewolf17

    bluewolf17 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2013 Maryland

    So obviously I'm furious but there's nothing I can do about it. However, you all know there's some crazy ass people out there. This clown gave out his address. People know where he lives. How can you be so stupid?
     
  35. BlumBeer

    BlumBeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2012 Florida

  36. Chromada06

    Chromada06 Initiate (86) May 1, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Address and a plane ticket ...
    I'll beat this guy and post it on YouTube
     
  37. Jaycase

    Jaycase Meyvn (1,181) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Nice detective work OP. I bet the guy didn't think you'd notice. Nice you had two bottles to compare. If he swapped it out with FIS and recapped/rewaxed, this is the lowest of lows w/r/t trading. Karma will catch up to him in time.
     
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  38. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Zealot (580) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Where is he in Iowa? Maybe I'll take a "road trip" this weekend...
     
  39. nesarebad

    nesarebad Devotee (422) Feb 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Love this post he left in a thread about an Upland lottery:

     
  40. yoitsarch

    yoitsarch Disciple (309) Nov 13, 2012 California

    I understand how accounts get banned along with the ip address, although you can find a way around that I think it would be cool if you could put together a program where you can input the home address and it would tell you if it was used in a bad trade. That way it would make the trader go through even more of an effort to still scam people since he would have to have a secondary location to use.
     
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