I thought Jai Alai was my favorite IPA...

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  1. Rimbimhoot

    Rimbimhoot Crusader (718) Sep 26, 2012 Illinois
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    Just did a blind IPA tasting with my dad. We had CC Jai Alai, Revolution FW Dos Osos and Stone RuinTen. Last weekend I said that Jai Alai was my favorite IPA and tonight my dad and I both placed Dos Osos in first and I had Jai Alai in last because it had more of a malt backbone than I remember. Very surprised Dos Osos came in first since it has the lowest ratings on this site out of the 3. Has anyone else tried these beers? What are your thoughts?
  2. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (2,474) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Wait...you let your own taste override a BA score? WTF!
  3. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    No flame to the OP, but that was a good one!
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  4. Rimbimhoot

    Rimbimhoot Crusader (718) Sep 26, 2012 Illinois
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    In hindsight RuinTen may fall behind the Jai Alai because of alcohol presence but i'm still surprised Dos Osos won.
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  5. Rimbimhoot

    Rimbimhoot Crusader (718) Sep 26, 2012 Illinois
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    Good call, this confirms that bias comes into play for me.
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  6. MadDogMD

    MadDogMD Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2013 Arizona

    I can see the Jai Alai against Dos Osos, but why would you throw RuinTen in there at 10.8% ABV? Apples & oranges...
  7. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Meyvn (1,126) Mar 1, 2009 California

    There's been plenty of times when I've done side by sides and preferred one over another which was surprising. Then, again...having them on their own, I preferred the original one over the one that surprised me.


    Side by sides don't always mean you like one over another in the long run. For me at least. Is that weird?
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  8. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (2,474) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I think your avatar has that covered.
  9. DogfishJoe

    DogfishJoe Initiate (189) Feb 14, 2010 Ohio
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    i always like the results of blind taste tests.
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  10. smitherz22

    smitherz22 Initiate (0) May 8, 2012 California

    Agree. IPA side by sides especially don't work for me... They get muddled
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  11. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    There are so many great beers out there that it's difficult for me to pick a favorite. (I get asked what my favorite is all the time.) Be open to trying new beers and you will most likely discover new ones you enjoy. That's what it's all about, to me.
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  12. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    No, that's actually what I would expect. It's like the Pepsi challenge, in small doses people prefer the sweeter drink, but for a full pint (or whatever) they want something else. Side-by-sides and blind tastings are fun, but they're really not the be-all-end-all of taste. Hell, the setting matters a lot for how something tastes, if you're in a better mood it'll taste better, etc.

    Anyway, OP, this doesn't surprise me at all, but I think Jai Alai is mediocre at best. Dos Osos was at least pretty good.
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  13. jplopez21

    jplopez21 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2012 Illinois
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    Eh, once you have so many of the same beer it becomes boring. Same case with me. I've had so much zombie dust, it doesn't do it anymore for me.
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  14. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    This thread is useless without some more information...

    How many hours was it since they left the brewery? [​IMG]
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  15. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Champion (850) Jul 15, 2011 Florida
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    I would never be able to do a blind tasting with jai alai, because I would know which one was jai alai the second I tasted it, and I already know that it's my favorite IPA I've had. Though I actually might like RuinTen better, but as a huge "triple" IPA, it can't really be compared.
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  16. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,283) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    As a true hop head who can't get enough I love to do side by side comparisons of different American Pale Ales, IPA, and IIPA. Funny though how I always get the same result, this...

    We liive in the Garden of Eden of great hoppy pale ales, probably the best ever made, or even imagined, and what a blessing it is to have so many great ones so easily available!
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  17. Bugs318

    Bugs318 Zealot (550) Dec 9, 2011 Quebec (Canada)
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    Blind tastings are a blast, but not only do our palates evolve over time, but so to does the order they're presented in. A blind-taste winner may not be your favourite, but if compared to good beers it's probably a good beer! That is my quest... more variety of good beers.
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  18. JimKal

    JimKal Devotee (488) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    What the tasting really revealed was you found another IPA that you liked. I had Jai Alai on a recent trip to Florida and think it is a very nice IPA - one of many that I've enjoyed. Of course, you realize that two people sampling 3 beers could produce widely varying results. If Jai Alai was your favorite IPA before your "tasting" it should remain one you can continue to enjoy and you may find, on a different occasion, that it will taste better than the competition. Taste varies not only from person to person but from day to day.
  19. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    Still hoping the OP comes back and explains the age(s) of these beers involved in the taste test.

    The OP lives in Illinois, and Dos Osos is from Revolution (of Chicago, IL).

    Jai Alai is only distributed (mostly) in Florida. I live minutes from CCB and can find it in stores regularly within a couple weeks (sometimes a day) of the canning date.

    Stone is out of Cali, but distributes all over, and certainly in Illinois.

    I'm hardly an extremist when it comes to fresh IPA (my first post was made in jest). But, if you're going to compare days old Dos Osos to 5 months old Jai Alai, that you got as a bonus (or whatever) in a trade, then you're comparing apples and oranges.:wink:
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,103) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    As Stugotzo eloquently stated, comparing a fresh IPA to a months old IPA is not a fair comparison.

  21. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Meyvn (1,126) Mar 1, 2009 California

    And depending on the tasting order, a absolute palate wrecker with Ruin Ten. How would you be able to taste those other 2 beers after a 11% TIPA? Confused why a TIPA would be pitted against two singles in a blind tasting but hey, to each their own and I'm sure it was a good time regardless.
  22. Rimbimhoot

    Rimbimhoot Crusader (718) Sep 26, 2012 Illinois
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    Dos Osos just came out within the last 2 Weeks as did RuinTen. Jai Alai was canned on June 5. RuinTen happened to be the last beer tasted. Also I realize that I will continue to buy Jai Alai because like many of you have said, taste varies from day to day and is based on many factors.

    There was no strategy with picking these 3 beers. I just wanted to drink these 3 last night and thought it would be fun to do a blind tasting since I have never done one before. RuinTen was a dead giveaway due to the higher abv.

    Also I don't feel my geography really came into play. As stated earlier, I was a derp and let the BA score of Dos Osos bias me to think I would obviously prefer Jai Alai.
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  23. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    You're in Illinois... where do you buy your Jai Alai that you were able to get it within 16 days?
  24. beerindaglass

    beerindaglass Aspirant (217) Feb 20, 2013 Florida
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    I could do a blind, deaf, and dumb taste test with Jai Alai and Ruinten and know which ones was a TIPA and which was an IPA. Next time put a Stone Espresso IRS against a PtE. You'll be shocked at which is which.

    Fwiw, jai alai and Ruinten both kick ass oin their respective styles.
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  25. concussed

    concussed Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2006 Colorado

    Now you're just being a jerk.
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  26. Rimbimhoot

    Rimbimhoot Crusader (718) Sep 26, 2012 Illinois
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    I just received Jai Alai in a trade, but I go down to St Pete and Tampa every spring with my family. I'll be buying a bunch next March as usual.
  27. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Disciple (373) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    I just had Dos Osos for the first time last night and laughed when I saw Its rating.

    Its like a mini double jack. I thought it was better than Union Jack.

    Never had Jai, but yes, Dos Osos is amazing IYAM.
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  28. TheFugitive

    TheFugitive Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Illinois

    The best hops are found on the west coast
  29. Schwantz

    Schwantz Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2012 Florida

    My hops are better than your hops. Mud wrestle to see who wins!! "barkeeper..ill have another fresh Jai Alai please"!! :wink: cheers!
  30. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,491) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    You said the Jai Alai was a little malty, was it fresh? I've only had this brew twice so two sixers might not count for much, but the first was over 8 weeks old, I drank one and gave the other 5 away, a malty mess of an IPA. The other was about a week old and it was great. Comparing IPA's things need to be as equal as you can make them.
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  31. Geuzedad

    Geuzedad Zealot (540) Nov 14, 2010 Arizona
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    Jai Alai fresh is really good, not that much malt IMO, but every time I have had it (visiting the folks in Florida) it has been delicious with a great hop profile. In fact on tap at Cigar City it is amazing. If I lived there it would be a regular for me.
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