Dropped every costly to make beer they used to make, most notably their fantastic Barleywine and Imperial Stout, and now use (from what I hear from others so take this as second hand info) the cheapest ingredients and quickest techniques to make their beers. Their Alt which was a favorite of mine, used to be fruity and clean and tasty, the last two visits it was a shadow of itself, and the second of those visits the Alt had an undertaste of sewage, which may be the lines, though that hardly excuses them. Three Pines IPA, another favorite, is now my least favorite English IPA, it is underhopped, poorly hopped, and you can taste the low quality of the malt versus the MO they used to use. Got 3 mill? You can buy it. Wish I had the cash, that all copper system in there could make some tasty beer in the right hands.