Imperial Red Ales

Talk Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by harperman69, Oct 11, 2012.

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  1. harperman69

    harperman69 Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2009 Tennessee

    Does it not deserve its own category? I realize that is a blend of other styles but there are too many beers that just don't fit the categories they are labeled, Nugget Nectar being the main example I can think of.
     
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  2. DanE

    DanE Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2012 Connecticut

    IMO G'Knight is the main example :wink:. And yes, I would love to see people push the style more. Founder's I am looking at you bub.
     
  3. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    I feel like categorization in general can be a nuisance in the beer scene. Sometimes it leads people to expect a very specific experience before they even try a beer.

    "This Abrasive stuff has oats in it? That's not a real American Double / Imperial IPA. Garbage."
    "This Furious stuff is too malty for an American IPA. Gross."

    People actually say these stupid things sometimes^
     
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  4. harperman69

    harperman69 Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2009 Tennessee

    I understand that experimentation will lead to debate, but as a whole I find Imperial Red Ales to be pretty distinctive.
     
  5. jaybags

    jaybags Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012 Michigan

    completely agree, one of my favorite styles.

    i love to have a troegs perpetual then move on to an imperial red.

    g' knight, nugget nectar and lagunitas imperial red lead the way for me. i ahd big hoppy monster, but that was before i knew what i was doing

    any other imperial reds i can get my hands on?
     
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  6. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,086) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    im liking Clown Shoes eagle claw fist.. what categories? only when fresh its good
     
  7. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    Yeah - I do get where you're coming from. I guess I just wish people didn't put so much weight in the category that a beer lands in. Especially when - in the case of Surly - the brewers themselves might not even necessarily agree with the way their own beer was categorized on BeerAdvocate.
     
  8. soughtbygod

    soughtbygod Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2011 California

    Kern rivers 6th anniv was a 9% imperial red very well done i have some for trade
     
  9. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,842) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I think there a many styles that could warrant a separate imperial category like the DIPA category. Such as Reds, whites, browns, pumpkin ales, black ales, etc. But it doesn't bother me so much that we don't have the perfect category label on here to slap on every beer. Perhaps once we start getting more granular categories, we would see people debating whether beer fits in one or the other more often than we do now.
     
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  10. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Dirty Hippy! So good.
     
  11. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    I concur brotha. So sad I only got 2 bottles. Sad panda. :slight_frown:

    Cheers!
     
  12. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Savant (1,237) Mar 23, 2008 California

    I think any style that gets imperialized enough to deserve it's own imperial category should get the imperial category.
     
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  13. jpro

    jpro Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2009 Colorado

    Seems like there's more and more of these coming out... which is a good thing, I think. PS - G'Knight is delicious. From what I've come across, some brewers seem to be treating this as its own style already.
     
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  14. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,093) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    I'd be more interested in seeing the site distinguish between Amber and Red.
     
  15. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    And what exactly are the distinguishing characteristics between an amber and a red?
     
  16. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Savant (1,237) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Can you distinguish for me? I've heard people lately referencing them as if there is a difference.
     
  17. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,093) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    I guess I find Ambers being all about the malts; more one dimensionally sweet and bready, even at times toffee, with a less active, fuller mouthfeel. Red's I find are far hoppier and offer a slightly different malt profile.
     
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  18. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    That may be true for certain examples but it's not broadly true to the point that it warrants two distinct style classifications. Is Nugget Nectar, for example, "all about the malts" and " one dimensionally sweet and bready"?
     
  19. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,559) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    I'm not awarding beers medals, so highly specific catagories are pretty much lost on me.
     
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  20. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,093) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    Having never had Nugget Nectar I can't comment.

    I will say, that at least to me, there is a clear distinction between beers like Bell's Amber/New Belgiums Fat Tire and beers like Odell's Red or Marble's Red.
     
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