Welcome to BeerAdvocate!

Looking to talk, rate or trade beer? Join today by creating your free account.

Dismiss Notice
Curious about recent updates to the site and app? Check the Announcements forum for updates.
Dismiss Notice
Love Belgian Beer?

Join us Sep 17 in Portland, Maine for Return of the Belgian Beer Fest, featuring hundreds of authentic Belgian beers and Belgian-inspired offerings.

Tickets + more: beeradvocate.com/belgian

Asia Interesting Article About Micro-breweries in North Korea

Discussion in 'The Rest of the World' started by Resuin, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. Resuin

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Posts:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    12,791
    Location:
    Massachusetts
  2. leedorham

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2006
    Posts:
    2,542
    Likes Received:
    4,335
    Location:
    Washington
    "The price of drinking North Korean beer is bowing to a lot of statues of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il, listening to their version of the Korean war, and eating anything and everything they give you to eat"

    Sorry. This isn't ok, even if it's just a meaningless gesture to appease them. There is calculated large-scale torture and murder going on in that country.
     
  3. youradhere

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Posts:
    510
    Likes Received:
    297
    Location:
    Washington
    That's kind of a myopic way to look at the DPRK, granted they do what you say, however who are we to impose our culture and way of life on another civilization?

    An interesting article and read, I enjoyed it. I'd like to visit the DPRK some day, as a Sinophile I find the area fascinating and the national relationship between China and the DPRK. A donated fermenter from China? I wonder what the story was behind that.
     
    lelepat likes this.
  4. leedorham

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2006
    Posts:
    2,542
    Likes Received:
    4,335
    Location:
    Washington
    It's not a simple issue, sure. However, I don't see curiosity, or cultural open-mindedness, mostly for tourism sake it seems, as a free pass.
     
  5. youradhere

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Posts:
    510
    Likes Received:
    297
    Location:
    Washington
    And neither containment, engagement, or congagement are acceptable ways to view foreign policy with the DPRK. Alternatives? Beer diplomacy might work, especially for this beer themed site.
     
  6. russpowell

    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Joined:
    May 24, 2005
    Posts:
    9,735
    Likes Received:
    31,859
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    So would a couple of low yield neutron bombs. Some people could probably rationalize what Hitler & Stalin did these days. My understanding is they way more into the use & import of Meth in the DPRK anyhows...

    When I did a year at Osan AB, I went on a tour of the OB Brewery (1995). The guides made it clear we couldn't take pictures as they were protecting trade secrets. When I think about horrid that beer was ( & probably still is) it still makes me laugh to this day. Can't even imagine how bad the DPRK beer must be...
     
    lelepat and Hoppsbabo like this.
  7. Hoppsbabo

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2012
    Posts:
    1,198
    Likes Received:
    894
    Location:
    United Kingdom (England)
    I wouldn't say it was myopic at all but actually very accurate. The North is about as Orwellian as life gets. The amount of people that risk their lives every day to escape that country is testament to the brutalility of its regime.

    Anyway, living in South Korea I'd probably risk crossing the DMZ just to get at some half decent local beer.
     
    russpowell likes this.
  8. youradhere

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Posts:
    510
    Likes Received:
    297
    Location:
    Washington
    Wow that was an old post, I had forgotten about it util you both started quoting it.

    No one is arguing that the DPRK isn't without fault- however things change and countries can too. The cultural revolution in China gave an outward appearance of imminent collapse for the civilization almost half a century ago; now China is emerging as a world power, with a long game strategy that should shake the clowns we call US politicians. My take away from the article was that beer has made an opportunity for engaging the DPRK on a cultural level, it gives the DPRK some common ground with the civilized world that it is often belligerently at odds with. Supporting such cultural phenomena such as beer along with other cultural baubles like basketball, perhaps the winds of influence and change will creep in with the new regime and prodigal son, and ultimately lead to (along with influence from regional peers like China and Vietnam) an embracing of a socialist model more akin to democracy than totalitarianism.
     
  • About Us

    Your go-to website for beer (since 1996), publishers of BeerAdvocate magazine (since 2006) and hosts of world-class beer events (since 2003). Respect Beer.
  • Return of the Belgian Beer Fest

    BeerAdvocate Brings its All-Belgian Fest to Portland, Maine on September 17, 2016. Tickets are on sale now.

    Learn More
  • Get the Mag

    Become a BeerAdvocate magazine print subscriber today.

    Subscribe