Investment Opportunities in Craft Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Msquared2, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. Msquared2

    Msquared2 Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2011 North Carolina

    Does anyone know of any?
  2. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    A lot of upstart breweries in SD take on investors. The terms usually suck though, making it not an investmnet that can grow, just a roulette wheel spin.

    For example, Manzanita in SD wanted $25k up front, with $50k and out a year later.
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  3. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    As in, public investing? Sam Adams would be your only option in craft beer that I know of. Could be wrong though...
  4. Msquared2

    Msquared2 Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2011 North Carolina

    I guess so. I am only in my early 20s and have just recently gotten into investing. I am really just wondering if there are any that I can get into.
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  5. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Meyvn (1,167) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    kzoobrew's investment plan.

    1. Buy beer (provide brewery income)
    2. drink beer (untappd check in, free advertising)
    3. return bottle
    4. $.10 return on my investment (this only works in Michigan)
  6. crushedvol

    crushedvol Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2008 Illinois

    and the Ticker "HOOK" -craft beer alliance

    Or you could just get short "BUD" :slight_smile:
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  7. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    There's really not a lot of money in beer investment. You can go with the big guys like AB, SA, CBA, etc. But with the red hot microbrewery scene, I don't know how I'd feel about investing long term in the big guys.

    At the low end, even if you find a decent investment path, your odds of success are a long shot. There are 1000 little breweries in this country right now, and maybe 10-20 of them will grow to Stone/DFH/Harpoon level, with maybe 1-2 growing to SA level. And unless you hit those levels, there's not much money in beer.
  8. slangtruth

    slangtruth Initiate (109) Jan 8, 2012 Massachusetts

    Didn't we just have this thread? If I had anything more than the price of a 4 pack of Ten Fidy to invest, I'd put it into hop farming, not a brewery.
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  9. Xul

    Xul Champion (800) May 18, 2008 California

    Do you have experience investing, especially in smaller companies? Do you already have a good portfolio of other investments that you have a good handle on? Are you familiar with the last cycle of craft beer's boom and bust?

    If you just want to throw some money at Boston Beer Company's stock and see what happens, go for it, but if you're genuinely serious about investing your money, 1) craft beer isn't your best bet and 2) asking on BA isn't going to yield the best possible advice.
  10. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,482) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Sometimes hobbies are best left as hobbies.

    If you have to ask, and if you have to ask here, then maybe think twice about doing this yourself.
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  11. Msquared2

    Msquared2 Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2011 North Carolina

    It was just out of curiosity. But thank you.
  12. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    Alpine was looking for $3 million to expand production. I have the prospectus.
  13. ZeroSignal

    ZeroSignal Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    The only publicly traded "craft" brewers are:

    Boston Beer Company (Ticker SAM) - Samuel Adams, Twisted Tea and Angry Orchard Cider
    Craft Brew Alliance (Ticker BREW (recently changed from HOOK)) - Widmer, Kona and Red Hook

    Otherwise, you're talking larger brewers such as AB-Inbev (BUD), SAB-Miller (SBMRY) and Molson-Coors (TAP).
  14. Andrew61923

    Andrew61923 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2009 California

    They got less than 10% of the desired funds, so they're restructuring the plan and will put forth another proposal within the next year.
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  15. bleakies

    bleakies Devotee (400) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I've heard there are a number of craft beer investment opportunities on eBay.
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  16. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    sure you can spend some of your cash in my new brewery! cash only please, lol.
  17. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    I would put it into growing indoors, it might be about 10 years but by then it will be the only place you can grow anything....If you ask me.:wink:
  18. LAD

    LAD Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2008 Texas

    You can make a small fortune in the craft beer business. Just be sure to start out with a large fortune.
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  19. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    ahh that is a oldie but a goodie.
  20. Ming

    Ming Initiate (143) Jul 1, 2012 New York
    Beer Trader

    Brewdog has taken on investors in the past but think all of their shares have sold out.
  21. fatmcb1

    fatmcb1 Disciple (332) Nov 12, 2010 Texas
    Beer Trader

    There are some low barrier options with a couple of very small US craft breweries and some foreign companies out there that are listed on pink sheets and bulletin boards, but these are going to be high risk. TSGTY and HBWO are examples.

    There are many other foreign options, but you would need access exchanges outside of the U.S. An example of that would be SMB on the Philippine Stock Exchange.
  22. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    This will provide even greater roi.
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  23. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    But on the serious side, I believe a good investment is in companies that manufacture brewing equipment. With so many new breweries in the works and existing breweries expanding, they all need equipment and there's just so much used equipment that is still viable.
  24. ao125

    ao125 Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Virginia

    Are you an "accredited investor"?

    I think that's the only way you're going to be able to buy stock in a brewery, pre-IPO.
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  25. Steeeve

    Steeeve Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Use Kickstarter. Give them $25 now, get free beer/tshirts/bottle openers later! It's even safer than a money market fund!
  26. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (497) Jan 2, 2010 California
    Beer Trader

    If you can afford a 4 pack of Oskar Blues, you have money to spare for investments.

    i kid kid.
  27. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (497) Jan 2, 2010 California
    Beer Trader

    I would love to see that prospectus.
  28. Mothergoose03

    Mothergoose03 Poo-Bah (2,227) May 30, 2005 Michigan
    Premium Member

    Yeah, you, Kramer and Neuman in the mail truck. :wink: You'll be stopped at the MI border and arrested.
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  29. dauss

    dauss Zealot (560) Aug 9, 2003 Colorado
    Industry Beer Trader

    The subscription agreement is on their website.
  30. Xul

    Xul Champion (800) May 18, 2008 California

    That's not the prospectus, the prospectus was a longer document (45ish pages I believe) that could only be picked up at the brewery.
  31. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    As it was stated above, the old prospectus is no longer valid. They are working on a new offering.
  32. Errto

    Errto Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2009 Connecticut

    Yep. I understand why this topic comes up and has an appeal, but this is the correct answer. If you want to _actually_ help a local brewery, see what they need done and volunteer, and of course spread the word.
  33. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,455) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    A fantastic brewpub, turnkey, great location (next to Wallkill River and the RailTrail, college town)fantastic amenities, all copper equipment, is reportedly on the market in New Paltz for asking of 3 mill.
  34. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

  35. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,455) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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  36. Ranbot

    Ranbot Zealot (512) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    There's also Big Rock Brewery Inc. (BRBMF), a Canadian micro brewery. They even have dividends, unlike SAM and BREW.
  37. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    know any details ? how much they gross etc?
  38. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    not any more. they but the kaibosh on that one.
  39. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (2,762) Oct 14, 2009 Texas
    Beer Trader

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