IPAs that don't taste like dish soap

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  1. wafels_and_schnapps

    wafels_and_schnapps Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2013 Massachusetts

    For many years, I've been terrified to try IPAs. I find that the hoppier the beer, the more it tastes like straight up dish soap. Maybe I haven't given IPAs a fair chance. Maybe I wrongly associate IPAs with dish soap. But at any rate, does anyone have suggestions for good IPAs...?
     
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  2. WotanMitUns

    WotanMitUns Initiate (145) Dec 20, 2012 Alaska

    The last thing I think of when I taste Heady Topper, Double Jack, Head Hunter or Pliny is dish soap. Give those a try if you can find them.
     
  3. Deltoro

    Deltoro Devotee (485) Sep 15, 2012 Florida
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    They all do. Some soaps are better than others. The new zest ipa is really good. Try the Irish spring red ale if you see it anywhere.
     
  4. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Wouldn't you better off suggesting some easier to find IPA's?

    Sculpin for example?
     
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  5. tectactoe

    tectactoe Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2012 Michigan

  6. Treebs

    Treebs Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2011 Illinois

    What IPA's have you had that have given you the "dish soap" flavors? That will probably help narrow it down a bit. Perhaps there's a particular hop gives your palate the flavor of dish soap and you can recommedations of IPA's that don't use that particular hop in the brew process.
     
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  7. Handle

    Handle Initiate (145) Mar 16, 2009 North Carolina

    I wish I could help, but I don't know that I've ever had an IPA that tasted like dish soap.
     
  8. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Crusader (736) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Dish soap is one taste I NEVER got from any IPA or DIPA I've ever tried. I suggest eating something spicy before trying another IPA or if that doesn't help, having your taste buds checked.
     
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  9. WotanMitUns

    WotanMitUns Initiate (145) Dec 20, 2012 Alaska



    Sculpin may be somewhat easier to find, but it's often 3-4 months old when I see it in my area. But yeah, it doesn't taste like dish soap either.
     
  10. wafels_and_schnapps

    wafels_and_schnapps Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2013 Massachusetts

    That's sort of the problem...I can't remember the ones I've already tried, because it was a long while ago and I've basically shunned them out of my memory. :(
     
  11. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    So there is a connection between dish soap and IPAs? I was wondering why the cleaning power of my Dawn fell off so quickly.
     
  12. whiterabbit

    whiterabbit Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2010 Ohio

    Try a decent pale ale, like Sierra Nevada. A lighter hop flavor than an IPA. If this is still not for you, it is ok to admit IPA's are not your style. There are many styles to consider.
     
  13. JM03

    JM03 Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2010 Ohio

    I usually leave a few ounces of my IPAs in the glass and use it to was the rest of my dishes.

    Seriously though, I've never tasted anything that resembled dish soap in any beer. Maybe you aren't rinsing your glasses enough and there is dish soap left in it?
     
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  14. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Ok, then perhaps any basic Stone IPA or something that isn't elusive and extremely difficult to get for a large portion of the population. Also, I feel like those are IPA's for people who already have a deep appreciation for IPA's.

    But im also not a hophead, so what the hell do I know?
     
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  15. iwantmorehops

    iwantmorehops Aspirant (232) Sep 25, 2010 Vermont
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    I have experienced this a number of times and it immediately ruins the beer for me, the most recent perpetrators were Otter Creek Hop Session ale, and Long Trail IPA. I'm absolutely meticulous about my glassware, it doesn't go in the dishwasher, and I rarely even use soap. Maybe its a specific variety, or just a mental association with that smell, but I've only experienced this with IPAs and pale ales.

    OP, Seek out some Jacks Abby, they brew amazing hoppy lagers that dont taste like soap.

    Edit: I should add that I drink a lot of hoppy beer, and just about all of it doesn't taste like soap
     
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  16. ubenumber2

    ubenumber2 Devotee (468) Sep 1, 2012 Arkansas
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    Just peoples taste ,all Porters and Stouts have an aftertaste that reminds me of when someone wipes out an ashtray with a damp cloth
     
  17. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Defender (608) Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    Dogfish Head 90 Minute just may be your jam, or perhaps Heavy Seas Loose Cannon, maybe even some Victory Hop Devil. These are more balanced IPAs compared to others that are all hops and little malt.

    One IPA that actually gave me a soap taste is Hop Stoopid. To me it tastes like Pliny, but with some weird, soapy taste at the end. Maybe I had a bad bottle? YMMV .
     
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  18. WotanMitUns

    WotanMitUns Initiate (145) Dec 20, 2012 Alaska


    Are you saying you've licked ashtrays people have wiped out with a damp cloth?
     
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  19. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    I am assuming Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is something you have tried (given how attainable it is). If you haven't, do it! If you have had SNPA and think it tastes like dish soap, perhaps IPA's are not the thing for you.

    A word to the wise though....sometimes flavors get stuck in our memories and we associate then with those memories moving forward, even if the flavor isn't really there. For example, growing up as a kid I loved "spiced drops," those gummy candies that had tons of clove flavor added to them. I specifically loved the green colored spice drops which were spearmint flavored. The first couple of times I tried a traditional Heff, one with a ton of clove flavor my brain said, "Why does this taste like mint?" I even came on here asking about why Heffs had a menthol like flavor to them. No one had an answer. I dug deeper and figured out what I wa remembering when I drank Heffs was not a mint flavor, but the heavy clove flavor that was in the minty, gummy candies I loved. Now my brain can isolate what I am tasting and associate it properly. As a result I love Heffs!

    Now, I have no idea why you would associate hops with dish soap, but who knows, life is crazy and the brain/taste bud connection are a complicated pieces of equipment!
     
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  20. ubenumber2

    ubenumber2 Devotee (468) Sep 1, 2012 Arkansas
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    Yeah we have to be open to trying new things man , geesh



    Actually its the smell of an ashtray and the taste of the porter that are similar , maybe I should have been more clear for the folks who are not well awake this morning ;)

     
  21. WotanMitUns

    WotanMitUns Initiate (145) Dec 20, 2012 Alaska



    Derp, sorry for the facetiousness ( is that a word ? )
     
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  22. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,253) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Some people get soap when they taste cilantro, that is about 20% of the population due to their genetics.

    Here is some information on soap taste in heavily hopped beers, read the Noonan section, he knew his stuff as a brewer and an author on beer and brewing. Find an IPA that has Burtonized water - high sulfates.
    "Hoppy beers sometimes have an unpleasant soapy flavor. Calcium sulfate eliminates soapy flavors and accentuates a clean, piquant hop bitterness."

    http://www.byo.com/stories/article/indices/56-water/313-brewing-water-tips-from-the-pros
     
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  23. antilite

    antilite Initiate (158) Jan 1, 2012 Florida

    I've never tasted dish soap. If I do, will it taste like Jai Alai?
     
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  24. ubenumber2

    ubenumber2 Devotee (468) Sep 1, 2012 Arkansas
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    I worked all niight and have had 3 beers , looks like a word to me
     
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  25. WotanMitUns

    WotanMitUns Initiate (145) Dec 20, 2012 Alaska


    Haha me too, shift ended at 9 this morning, I'm about 3 beers in also.
     
  26. ubenumber2

    ubenumber2 Devotee (468) Sep 1, 2012 Arkansas
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    Nice glad to know Im not drinking alone this morning , well I guess I kind of am ,but Cheers anyhow
     
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  27. WotanMitUns

    WotanMitUns Initiate (145) Dec 20, 2012 Alaska


    Lol, cheers. People I room with think it's pretty weird, they just don't understand that this is my evening time!
     
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  28. ShanePB

    ShanePB Poo-Bah (1,630) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    I've heard that from multiple females (strangely) I've given IPAs to. I just don't understand where you are getting that from.
     
  29. powpig2002

    powpig2002 Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2012 Florida

    torpedo, dogfish 60 or 90,
     
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  30. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (954) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Many times when I have Harpoon IPA it tastes like someone put a bar of soap in my mouth. A couple other beers have done that to me too. Possibly SNPA but I cant remember. It may have to do with how different palates interpret hop astringency.

    I'd suggest any fruity west coast style IPA with lots of late hop additions.
     
  31. BrewStew58

    BrewStew58 Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2011 New York

    Just drink a couple IPA's every day, you'll get there.
     
  32. ColinStClaire

    ColinStClaire Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2012 Washington

    If it was flower or citrus scented dish soap then maybe I could see that. +1 for giving some good pales a try first, Sierra Nevada Pale, Mirror Pond, something of that sort. But you may just not like hoppy beers. If you wanna skip the pales, Bridgeport IPA is melllllllow.
     
  33. GennyCreamAle

    GennyCreamAle Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2009 New York

    Since you don't remember than I think you need to go get an IPA, Drink it, and report back to us. Looks like you're in MA so Ithaca Flower Power should be available to you, give that one a try. If that tastes like soap to you then I'm afraid you're in need of a taste bud transplant.
     
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  34. dsal89

    dsal89 Disciple (331) Jul 6, 2008 Indiana
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    Closest ive came to dish soap was the mouthfeel on Stone 16th anny. Still enjoyed it though.
     
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  35. booyahachieved3

    booyahachieved3 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2012 Kansas

    Schlafly T IPA. Not a "typical" IPA by any means, I'm not the biggest IPA fan and I love that stuff.
     
  36. wafels_and_schnapps

    wafels_and_schnapps Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2013 Massachusetts

    Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

    I'll pick up a couple bottles of suggested IPAs this weekend. I think I might try the dogfish head 90 Min., and Stone IPA. I know you're all DYING of anticipation, so I'll report back asap. Thanks everyone!
     
  37. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    I sometimes (rarely) get a subtle soapy-like quality from IPAs, and I drink them ALL THE TIME. But usually it's so minute that it doesn't ever bother me. I'm guessing that some people are hyper sensitive to certain hop varieties that may display this quality - not sure which ones, though.
     
  38. marcgo2

    marcgo2 Initiate (71) Nov 16, 2010 Illinois
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    I guess I love washing my mouth out with soap then.
     
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  39. scootsmal

    scootsmal Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2012 New York

    This is person to person. I usually get the "it tastes like cough medicine" from people i offer a good IPA to. I can see where they get the dish soap reference, but its minute at most and very rare.
     
  40. kirbmeist

    kirbmeist Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012 Florida
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    Head Hunter all day
     
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