ISO: a Midwest city for the next BeerAdvocate fest

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Drunken_sherpa

    Drunken_sherpa Initiate (15) Feb 7, 2018 Missouri

    St. Louis!!! Great beer history.
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  2. beermeblazer99

    beermeblazer99 Initiate (77) Dec 31, 2009 Michigan

    Lansing, MI has new breweries popping up all the time. It’s located centrally in Michigan, between Grand Rapids and Detroit, and there are ample indoor/outdoor venues to accommodate that size crowd.
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  3. MattThomas

    MattThomas Initiate (124) Jul 20, 2004 California

    Three logistical suggestions...

    Cincinnati - Already does an amazing job with Oktoberfest, great brewery scene.
    Ann Arbor/Detroit - Easy to get to, incredible breweries abound, good lodging.
    Fort Wayne - Emerging brewing scene, central location and easy from all directions.
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  4. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (869) May 3, 2016 Illinois

    Milwaukee is out. The beer market is too mature to be up and coming. I hear they have 30,000 people a night turning out for their brewers. And apparently their brewers have beat Colorado's head to head repeatedly in the past week.

    Minneapolis is out. This is a spring festival and Minnesota only has two seasons, none of which are spring.

    St. Louis is out. The biggest producer of American beer was/is based here. How can this be considered an up coming market?
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  5. omlooper

    omlooper Disciple (329) Apr 25, 2008 Missouri

    St. Louis city for sure. (sorry county folk)

    90% of what people will want to visit is at most a 15 minute drive, usually much less. (shuttle to Narrow Gauge!!!)

    No L like Chicago but plenty of Uber and Lyft drivers.

    Parking is a breeze compared to other, bigger cities. (looking at you Chicago!)

    Plenty of hotels.

    Hard to beat Side Project, Perennial, 2nd Shift & 4 Hands as anchors of an event like this. Something for everyone.

    St. Louis is just a very easy city to get around.
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  6. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (4,075) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Des Moines is actually a great option in the Midwest. Great beer scene and very accessible. Can't speak to their public transportation though.

    Kansas City is also known for its kindness and hospitality though. :wink:
  7. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (4,075) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    To double down on Kansas City, we have a street car that is free for all riders. The street car rides through the heart of downtown and connects Union Station (south of downtown) with River Market (north of downtown). It would allow riders to access a beer fest along its route from three different areas of town, with a few possible venues along the stretch (Union Station and Bartle Hall stand out).

    The street car also passes 18th Street, which is well known for its collection of breweries. River Market area has its own breweries as well. Sadly, not really any good BBQ aside from Jack Stack along the street car route, so that would most likely require a drive.

    St. Louis does have more notable breweries (seriously, I'm jealous), but many of them are far apart and require a Uber/Lyft ride, a designated driver, or trading off on bus routes to access (thinking of Perennial, Side Project, and Narrow Gauge). 2nd Shift is worth visiting too, but is a little further out of the way. Their America's Convention Center is pretty central to downtown and fun areas, but I can't speak to any public transit that reaches it aside from buses.
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  8. boogerisu

    boogerisu Devotee (488) Aug 19, 2014 Iowa

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  9. omlooper

    omlooper Disciple (329) Apr 25, 2008 Missouri

    Forgot to mention that St. Louis is a hub for Southwest Airlines. Direct flights to most all of the country. Including Boston
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  10. jjboesen

    jjboesen Meyvn (1,304) Feb 1, 2002 Maryland

    My vote would be for Columbus, OH: it has a great beer scene and is home to the only Brew Dog in the USA (with a hotel).
  11. elphant888

    elphant888 Initiate (26) Jan 8, 2016 Illinois

    Chicago please! Center of region, tons of accommodations, booming beer scene
  12. Mebuzzard

    Mebuzzard Poo-Bah (3,898) May 19, 2005 Colorado
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    Hmmm...I'd like to see it in a not-so-obvious city. Des Moines is interesting. It does have an international airport.

    Lincoln, NE maybe.
    Personally, I'd love to see it in Lawrence, KS. You can use KU football stadium. Nothing else going on there.
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  13. ChrisSchlosser

    ChrisSchlosser Disciple (335) Nov 15, 2013 Ohio

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    AJSUSFS Aspirant (211) Sep 4, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Without knowing this locale's recent history re. beer fests, I am voting for Grand Rapids, MI. Recently (Sept.) visited there; was not disappointed at all.
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  15. beefbucket

    beefbucket Disciple (335) Mar 7, 2015 Missouri

    Absolutely St. Louis! Easy to get to from many Midwest cities and TONS of amazing breweries and passionate drinkers.
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  16. jdtinthelbc

    jdtinthelbc Disciple (339) Jan 28, 2012 Missouri

    Honestly, StL is a great location, biases aside.
    Central location + Southwest hub for out-of-towners, multiple old and new breweries in a beer scene that’s been growing since the early 90s, ample lodging and numerous free attractions, a city center that’s relatively easy to get around (the traffic is never as bad as comparable cities), and could honestly use some attention after losing the Rams and the convention business that came with them.
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  17. DesMoinesMike

    DesMoinesMike Champion (807) Mar 23, 2008 Iowa

    We have a bus system, but with the downtown area is very walkable and we have a skywalk system which is handy inclement weather.
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  18. Ladnar

    Ladnar Initiate (27) Jul 24, 2018 South Carolina

    Dayton Ohio
  19. Dicers

    Dicers Poo-Bah (1,745) Sep 2, 2012 Colorado
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  20. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (3,920) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    For everyone saying St. Louis is a Southwest hub, thats true, but Chicago has Midway which is Southwest's largest hub.
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  21. Dan_K

    Dan_K Zealot (519) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado

    What are you on about here? Usually I'd say what you are smoking but usually people ask that about Colorado.
    EDIT: I guess he's making a reference to the Milwaukee Brewers baseball team vs. the Colorado Rockies... sigh...
  22. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (869) May 3, 2016 Illinois

  23. Dan_K

    Dan_K Zealot (519) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado

    They should throw out anyone's vote who is stumping for whatever city/state they currently live in.
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  24. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (3,920) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    So 95% of the votes here?
  25. Trainman4beer

    Trainman4beer Initiate (86) Nov 11, 2010 Michigan

    Marshall,Michigan. Home to the Dark Horse Brewing, and now Grand River Brewing. Midway between Chicago & Detroit at intersection of Interstates 69 & 94. Captures two famous beer cities, all of Michigan, close to Bell's Brewing, New Holland Brewing, and Founders. What a GREAT combo. No doubt the best.
    The birthplace of the John Bellairs and the REAL House with a Clock in its Walls!
  26. jeffroesch

    jeffroesch Initiate (44) May 13, 2017 Illinois

    Chicago, St. Louis, Milwaukee in that order
  27. bd709nc

    bd709nc Initiate (21) Jul 21, 2018 Indiana

    Indianapolis, a great beer city with lots of venues withing walking distance.
  28. FightingEntropy

    FightingEntropy Meyvn (1,026) Apr 30, 2005 Minnesota

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  29. JFreres

    JFreres Initiate (190) Dec 2, 2014 Wisconsin

    It's gotta be Chicago or Milwaukee
  30. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Savant (942) Jul 28, 2014 Maine

    The @Pittsburgh_official_scene is blowing up with #paste and #haze now. v ripe for a’swooping.

    Not sure if the market is right in Celeve. Columbus could be cool.
  31. BeerVikingSailor

    BeerVikingSailor Savant (904) Nov 19, 2009 Ohio

  32. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Poo-Bah (4,766) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Shitcago, please.
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  33. stortore

    stortore Poo-Bah (3,087) May 31, 2011 Illinois

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  34. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Disciple (351) Apr 29, 2012 California

    The correct answer: Chicago.

    If you've ever driven through the entire Midwest, you'll realize the Windy City is an oasis of civilization. I absolutely love eating and drinking there. Probably my favorite larger city in the United States to visit.

    Runner(s) up: St Louis, Kansas City, Indianapolis (probably in that order).
  35. agacomeau

    agacomeau Initiate (99) Oct 5, 2010 Minnesota

    If you hold it in May the weather in Minneapolis is fine. Huge convention center, hotels galore and a solid public transportation system. You could even do it at the State Fairgrounds. Most importantly the beer scene here is intense. At least 50 breweries of all sizes in the Twin Cities metro and over a hundred statewide. You can't go wrong with this location!
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  36. D9sus4

    D9sus4 Initiate (148) Oct 15, 2014 Missouri

    St. Louis for many logical reasons:

    1) St. Louis has more than 20 breweries not including Anheuser-Busch which is worth visiting even if you don't drink their beer.
    2) St. Louis' Lambert airport is a major Midwest hub for many airlines, and there are cheap flights to and from it to most other cities.
    3) Hotels are much less expensive here than Chicago, Kansas City, Indianapolis, and most other major Midwestern cities.
    4) Lots of good venues for hosting the event, many with free parking.
    5) Many cool places to visit if you bring the family, like the great St. Louis Zoo, the Art or History museums, Forest Park, Botanical Gardens, the Arch, and most of them have Free admission.
    6) The local beer community is very friendly, and supportive, and would help make the arrangements.
    7) The weather in St. Louis in the Spring, is generally milder than most of the other major Midwestern cities, since it's a little further south.
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  37. jdoncbus

    jdoncbus Disciple (383) Jun 17, 2006 Ohio

    I was in Chapel Hill a few years ago, I was unaware their metro area held over 2 million folks. Note to self....
  38. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Defender (626) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    Because I live here and think it's a great city with a very great (and growing) beer scene, I'd vote for Des Moines, IA.

    Realistic choices:
    1. Minneapolis
    2. Chicago
    3. Milwaukee
  39. undermined

    undermined Initiate (37) Sep 24, 2017 Illinois

  40. Dicers

    Dicers Poo-Bah (1,745) Sep 2, 2012 Colorado
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    I could be wrong, but I have to imagine venues are going to be exponentially more expensive in Chicago than a lot of the other options