Jolly Pumpkin Oro De Calabaza over carbonated?

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  1. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    So first off let me just say I really like this beer....except for one little thing. I've purchased this beer on 3 separate occasions and each time I pop the cork about a third of the bottle comes shooting out! Every single time! The first time it went everywhere, I shoved my mouth over the lid of the bottle and chugged the foam while it dripped down my chin and all over my clothes. Second time? See above. Third time I was ready, I had a few glasses lined up ready to go.

    Now I'm wondering if anyone else has had this happen to them? I find it really hard to believe that it's just me.
     
  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    A lot of sour ales and wild ales tend to gush when you pop the cork. Funkwerks brett dream essentially turned completely into foam when I popped the top. Every hill farmstead I have opened with the exception of twilight gushed a bit as well. Part of the game I guess.
     
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  3. frazbri

    frazbri Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2003 Ohio

    One possible explanation is, that since JP does more or less spontaneous fermentations, that you've gotten a few that are a little too wild. Get them nice and cold, and hope for the best.
     
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  4. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,153) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Have these bottles been refrigerated for a while or are you chilling and opening right away?
     
  5. OldBluesNewBrews

    OldBluesNewBrews Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2012 New Jersey

    I could be wrong but I feel that the majority of bottle-conditioned beers have the potential to do this. It's harder to control when the beer is not force carbonated. However, most breweries carefully monitor how much priming sugar they add, so usually it's not a problem.

    On the other hand, some don't monitor as well. Most recently, the Weyerbacher Sour Black I opened had some of the most insane carbonation I've ever seen.
     
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  6. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Two of which I refrigerated for about 24 hours and drank....the other sat in my fridge for weeks. I'll be honest I'm fairly new to the wild ale genre. Is this a case of user error? Haha.
     
  7. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    The one was a total disaster....hopped into bed to watch a movie and set my glass on my bedside table....popped the cork and looked over to grab my glass and it started erupting.....had to sleep on the couch that night...:slight_frown:
     
  8. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,153) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    No probably not your fault. Ive had lots of jolly pumpkin gushers. Best is just to chill down as cold as you can and have a glass ready
     
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  9. superspak

    superspak Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,314) May 5, 2010 North Carolina
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    It happens with Wild Ales and age. My Oro gushed hard too, but it was over 2 years old at that point. Also had a 4 year old bottle of Allagash Confluence in November, shot the cork to the ceiling and gushed hard, but I didn't lose a drop. Same with the 3 year Sofie I had a couple months ago(lost a bit on that because I wasn't expecting such a violent gusher). Be on the ready with these styles; expect the unexpected. Something I learned after having countless.
     
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  10. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    This seems to be a standard potential with JP brews. I remember it happening to me back in 2007 or so. (It seems the issue is here to stay.) I'd always have a glass ready to pour a possibly impending gusher into.
     
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  11. cmoody91

    cmoody91 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2010 Illinois

    Only occasionally have issues with gushing with JP's brews, but they are normally about 2 years old when it happens. As mentioned above, your best bet is making sure there is no agitation then making sure it's been in the fridge for over 24hours before opening. Besides that it just comes down to luck with the bugs and bottle conditioning.

    Good luck next time!
     
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  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,159) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It's the wild yeast having a party before you do. :wink:
     
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  13. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    No I've not had that happen. But then I tend to leave the bottle condidtioned beers sit quietly in the cellar for 2-4 weeks after I get them home and then refrigerate them for a couple of days before opening.
     
  14. bmony26

    bmony26 Crusader (455) May 2, 2012 Wisconsin
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    This happened to me a couple of months ago with a bottle of Maracaibo. It was opened and 2 thirds of it foamed out of the bottle. It was a year old and I stuck it in the refrigerator for 45 minutes before opening. I will remember this and keep it in the refrigerator at least 24 hours before opening. Thanks for the info.
     
  15. Sneers

    Sneers Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Basically, this.

    From the time of bottling, those wild yeasts are going to keep chomping down on the remaining sugars in beer, and therefore keep producing CO2, until you open it. I've had plenty of "wild" beers gush the same way you described.
     
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  16. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The beers are pitched with a commercial Belgian yeast strain and fermented, then the beer goes into the wood where it is inoculated with the bugs and critters in the wood. Not spontaneous, except for the Lambicus Dexterous (SP).
     
  17. frazbri

    frazbri Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2003 Ohio

    So I guess that makes it the "less" in my "more or less spontaneous" posting. :sunglasses:
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,549) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Not if you know what spontaneous fermentation means! Wild yes, spontaneous no.
     
  19. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    Not just an isolated Oro de Calabaza thing....most Jolly Pumpkin beers have a tendency to gush. Doesn't take away from how awesome their beers are though!
     
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