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Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by searsclone, Dec 31, 2012.

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  1. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    I was lucky enough to get a 6 pack of Westvleteren 12. Also, I think it's crazy to try to get rich off of selling it on the 'net. So, I did some trading. I traded 1 Westy for 2 extremely fresh(bottled this month) Pliny the elders. Then, I sold 2 Westys and 1 glass for some $$. I immediately took the $$ into the store and purchased:

    750 ml:
    Unibrou Terrible (x2)
    Lost Abbey Gift of the Magi
    Sierra Nevada Ovila colabaration
    Uinta Cockeyed Cooper.

    12oz:
    Unibrou Maudite, Blanche de Chambly, Don de Dieu, and Trois Pistoles
    Atomium Premier Grand Cru

    I ended up with about another $10 USD out of pocket. I think that I did very well, and I think I treated my traders fairly. Any thoughts?
     
  2. beergoot

    beergoot Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Trading and selling is a two-way street. It would appear that all parties involved were agreeable to things, so, yes...good job on spreading the wealth and getting additional good brews for you own enjoyment.
     
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  3. dujayhawk

    dujayhawk Aug 8, 2011 Kansas
    Beer Trader

    Would you like a cookie or a small parade?
     
  4. beertunes

    beertunes Sep 24, 2007 Washington
    Beer Trader

    I'm just here to piss in your Wheaties.
     
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  5. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    I guess two Pliny's for one XII seems fair $4$.
     
  6. Avangion

    Avangion Dec 14, 2012 New York

    Well those aren't that hard to get, right? Or are they where you are? Anyway if you're happy, I'm happy for you. I also got a brick or two and can't decide what to do with the other glasses I don't want and whether I should keep the cardboard boxes. Thoughts?

    Fresh Pliny sounds so niiice
     
  7. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    can I get a cookie while I watch my small parade? Also, I found no value in the box. The beers I purchased are not hard to get, I just feel like 2 bottles and 1 glass for everything was a good thing!
     
  8. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    "Then, I sold 2 Westys and 1 glass for some $$."

    The monks that carefully crafted that beer have been very clear about how no one should make a profit on it. You did. As far as I understand they take the money they make off of it to keep the monastery and brewery going. Any surplus is given to charitable endeavors. You took the profit and bought more beer.

    You're not the first, nor the last to make money off of Westy. Sure you didn't make big bucks off of it on ebay, but you did make some money on it nonetheless. You asked for feedback, so here it is: Take the money you made (or the equivalent, seeing that you seemingly already spent it on more beer) and donate it to charity. Anything short of that and you fucked up in my book.
     
  9. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    Is this the generous form of winning trades?
     
  10. shuajw

    shuajw Aug 12, 2007 Georgia

    You should start a blog!
     
  11. bum732

    bum732 Feb 18, 2008 Lesotho

    " Also, I think it's crazy to try to get rich off of selling it on the 'net."

    "Then, I sold 2 Westys and 1 glass for some $$"

    wut.
     
  12. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    I appreciate it, Providence. I sold the 2 bottles and the glass for a bit of a markup. I was offered $65 for the bottles and glass. "Some money" over the purchase price, yes. If we consider time on money, fuel, and all that BS, then probably no money made. Regardless, I don't need any bad beer karma, so I think a charity donation is probably a good idea. But,do you think that if I would have done a direct trade, they would be ok with it?
     
  13. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    bum732. I sold for slightly more than I paid. $100 a bottle is wuts crazy!
     
  14. Avangion

    Avangion Dec 14, 2012 New York

    I think this is a valid point, but you're being awfully hard on him. If the monks really wanted to prevent resellers from profiting off their product, there is a simple solution. Nobody makes double their investment on Chimay. I realize the monks are trying to stay "pure," but they're also having it both ways by participating in a market economy. And in market economies, scarcity means demand means higher prices. You can yell all you want at individuals who do it, but it's not going to stop it, and this guy is at least a member of our community so deserves some cordiality even if you don't like what he did, right? You may all now dogpile on me, too.
     
  15. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Jan 1, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    So you took a 6 pack of Westvleteren and bartered it for a bunch of mostly year round shelf beer?


    Why are you bragging?
     
  16. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    I guess bragging because, the Westy is great, but not an "everyday" beer in my opinion. So, I took something extraordinary and turned it into much more "everyday".
     
  17. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    Let me know when you get your hands on a bunch of Cantillon. Cheers.
     
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  18. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    These are monks dude, monks. They aren't corporate execs at Inbev. They do good work in the community and just so happen to have the wonderful ability to make a great beer that they in turn sell, in order to maintain their positive community influence. I think that should be respected and given cordiality more than some guy who happened to sign up for a beer website I signed up for too.
     
  19. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Nov 26, 2008 California

    Me too! I turned French Laundry into a bowel movement. Nbd.
     
  20. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    gross
     
  21. cfh64

    cfh64 Aug 16, 2005 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Am I the only one wondering whether this guy is serious or not?
     
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  22. Avangion

    Avangion Dec 14, 2012 New York

    Yeah fine, but don't you think you'll have a better chance of getting your point across by not jumping down the poor guy's throat? It's not like I disagree with you. But West 12 has so much hype behind it, it's hard to resist. I can imagine many people willing to pay someone to try it since getting it themselves is very hard. Every bottle I've ever had before this whole brick thing, other than gifts, was obtained from the grey market. I never paid more than cost, or slightly more, because the last time was 10 years ago, but does that also mean I fucked up? Or just the people who sold it to me? People offering to shell out a hundred bucks a bottle certainly adds to price and hype inflation, but if I paid $20 or whatever it was, you could say it had a small effect. Anyway, it's not like the monks are being deprived of anything. They're still selling everything they make, and I'm sure the resell market makes that possible to a considerable extent, but I'm just making conversation.
     
  23. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Jul 19, 2009

    Did you buy any rare aged cheddar or artisan Gouda? Get stuck in the mud on the way to the store? Oh, nvm, you just remind me of someone I knew of once.

    Also, I really am happy for you but when you sat down and thought to yourself "hey, I should tell all of BA about this!" exactly what were you hoping to accomplish?

    One time I went into a store and bought some beer with a $20 I found in the parking lot.....true story.
     
  24. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    Providence and Avangion are 2 people that I would like to sit and have beers with! Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
     
  25. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Jan 4, 2012 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I cheered, but it wasn't a standing ovation.
     
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  26. Avangion

    Avangion Dec 14, 2012 New York

    Come on over! I'm drinking right now! Bring the Plinys...
     
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  27. cfh64

    cfh64 Aug 16, 2005 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Mordor, Arbitrator, and ASUBeer are three people I'd like to sit and have beers with but you're invited as well :)
     
  28. wingedeel

    wingedeel Nov 17, 2005 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I am having more and more difficulty separating the trolls from the wack jobs.
     
  29. moefriedman

    moefriedman Feb 15, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Worst thread ever!!
     
  30. davey101

    davey101 Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
    Beer Trader

    Thread of the year!
     
  31. UNCCTDawg

    UNCCTDawg Nov 30, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    I can't believe I clicked on this horseshit...
     
  32. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Can I have your autograph?
     
  33. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    my favorite part of this is the avatars. Maiden, Pantera, toothy apple pear thing, crazy dog, the dude, rubiks cat!
     
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  34. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    If you call my response jumping down someone's throat then you and I come from very different places.

    Anyone who profits off of Westy without prior consent of the monks is a chump in my book. If that includes you, which it doesn't sound like it does, then I think you're a chump too.
     
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  35. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    So what charity are you going to donate to?
     
  36. Avangion

    Avangion Dec 14, 2012 New York

    Listen, buddy, I'm a chump FOR ENTIRELY DIFFERENT REASONS. I hope that settles the matter. For what it's worth, I think you're coming from a good place, but we probably disagree about the sanctity of the monks. I'm as glad as anyone else they make good beer, though. Can't imagine reselling it, personally, but mostly because that would require giving it up. Might trade it. If someone offered me $1000 for a brick and I happened to be starving, I wonder what the monks would say. Answer: nothing! They're Trappists! LOL! OK, I'm going out for more beer now. But this was fun.
     
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  37. glitchedmind

    glitchedmind May 8, 2012 California

    So, what you're trying to say is that you won the trading game?

    Bravo!
     
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  38. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    For the record, it's not because of the monks' religious affiliation that I aim to protect their wishes; it's because they do charitable work, which I believe to be very important.

    Trading Westy is a different story. I don't have an issue with that. Although, like you, I don't think I'd be able to trade it away (assuming it is as tasty as people say).
     
  39. abecall98

    abecall98 Aug 11, 2007 California
    Beer Trader

    I am now sober reading this junk.
     
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  40. searsclone

    searsclone Sep 7, 2006 Arizona

    Trading Westy is a different story. I don't have an issue with that. Although, like you, I don't think I'd be able to trade it away (assuming it is as tasty as people say).[/quote]

    Westy is a great beer, but I wanted to share it. I had 6, and most of my friends wouldn't appreciate it. I offered it for the Pliny, instead of just repaying the ten bucks that it cost.

    Also, would trading for beers that have a higher price be considered making a profit?

    My charities of choice are PBS, Sun Sounds, Ear Candy, and Goodwill
     
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