KBBS is released December 15th, $100 for a 12oz bottle

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  1. TylerJ

    TylerJ Disciple (335) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    There are many Term Oils, so it might depend on which one you had.
    https://untappd.com/search?q=term oil&type=beer
     
  2. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,432) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    They aren't. Clark has repeatedly confirmed KBBS is BA MD.
     
  3. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (306) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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  4. BenHoppy

    BenHoppy Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2017 Michigan

    I never had KBBS, Assassins, or Morning Delight. I am just going by what the bartender at TG told me. Term Oil had no maple but was a bourbon barrel stout that happened to be the best bourbon barrel stout I ever had. I was just wondering when I was at TG if Term Oil was any way related to their big whale beers as I thought beer can't get much better than the Term Oil I had.
     
  5. BenHoppy

    BenHoppy Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2017 Michigan

    Term Oil 18
     
  6. TylerJ

    TylerJ Disciple (335) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    I've heard the base for Assassin is Norseman's Wrath. I would assume this is their "base stout" for the rest of their imperial stouts as well.
     
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  7. biggmatt74

    biggmatt74 Initiate (71) Dec 15, 2014 Wisconsin
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    I seem to remember hearing that the Term Oil beers were blended to make Assassin. That did not come from an employee, but just talking with folks at the MD release this year. Based on how it tasted the two times I had it, it kind of makes sense.
     
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  8. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Savant (901) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Can you imagine the blow back if $100 KBBS is infected....
     
  9. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,432) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    A lot of third-hand owners would be pissed about re-sale value!
     
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  10. rabbott2

    rabbott2 Zealot (512) Jan 14, 2015 Illinois

    I think @BenHoppy was misinformed. KBBS is barrel aged mornin delight. Term Oil is a Barrel Aged Stout, so it certainly isn't just mornin delight without the coffee. Maybe on of the term oils has maple, but they're barrel aged, so if anything, Term Oil would be KBBS without the coffee. And yes, based on timing, this KBBS should be MD b4 barrel aged. And MD b3 was brewed during the time that Brewmaster Mike was not working there, which may be why they didn't put it in barrels. Some of this I think they probably don't share intentionally, but I think that's all pretty accurate.
     
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  11. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (306) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    What is the relationship between Term Oil and Assassin (if any)?
     
  12. rabbott2

    rabbott2 Zealot (512) Jan 14, 2015 Illinois

    I'm glad we're talking about the beer now instead of the price. I'll keep it going.....

    I hope they bottle Term Oil at some point. I'd love to try that without having to drive 4 hours. But that would probably be a bigger deal than Assassin or MD, so getting a ticket would be nuts. Imagine the HYPE TRAIN!
     
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  13. rabbott2

    rabbott2 Zealot (512) Jan 14, 2015 Illinois

    I think the base stout is the same. I'd assume they're pretty close in nature overall. Maybe different bourbon brands for the barrels and probably different time in the barrels itself. I'd love to do some kind of vertical/horizontal of a few of the Assassin's lined up next to a few of the Term Oils. One can dream.
     
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  14. elbrooksie

    elbrooksie Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Texas

    Correct.
     
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  15. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (306) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    Yeah that's the sense I've gotten as well.

    Man, I'm really glad I never bought into the Assassin hype in that case.

    Thanks for all the information, appreciate it.
     
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  16. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,432) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Why isn't anyone asking the hard questinos? How many Tree House cans does Clark think KBBS is worth?
     
  17. Vitacca

    Vitacca Crusader (784) Sep 15, 2010 Alaska
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    Unless it's mint Term Oil. That was a border line drain pour.
     
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  18. Vitacca

    Vitacca Crusader (784) Sep 15, 2010 Alaska
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    One full days allotment for everybody.
     
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  19. TylerJ

    TylerJ Disciple (335) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    3 pallets of Green and 3 pallets of Julius? Will that get me one?
     
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  20. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Disciple (318) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    Assassin is an interesting beer because of the dark fruit flavor. I enjoy a good Bourbon County (2015 uninfected is my recent favorite) more than Assassin.
     
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  21. TylerJ

    TylerJ Disciple (335) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    From my experience having had several batches of MD and the latest Assassin (and I've also heard this from other reviews from people who have had both SR-71 batches and new and older batches of both MD and Assassin), it seems that their base stout went from being very chocolaty to being dark fruit forward. I don't know anything about brewing, so i don't know what causes a stout to be more on one side of that than another, but MD b2 was very chocolaty while b4 was very dark fruit forward. I only had a small sample of b5, so I don't remember if it was more along the lines of the old or new. I honestly prefer the more chocolaty base, which is more like what Maman has, so I actually prefer Maman over (2018) Assassin. A gold wax Assassin might be a different story.
     
  22. BenHoppy

    BenHoppy Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2017 Michigan

    Perhaps I was misinformed but I did ask is term oil KBBS without coffee and was told no. But if that is the case then I sure am glad I got to drink it. And can understand fuss about KBBS but not $100 worthy. No coffee should make a beer $90 enjoyable.
     
  23. Vitacca

    Vitacca Crusader (784) Sep 15, 2010 Alaska
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    Having had '13, '16 and '18 Assassin I can attest '13 was delectable fudge, '16 was heavy handed with the dark fruits. Almost Backyard Rye-esque to me which I do not like and '18 is a beer I would not go out of my way for. Less dark fruits than '16 but also a thinner and more carbonated mouthfeel.

    MD I don't get the dark fruit flavor that pops the way it does in Assassin to me.

    I've been a TG drinker since the old PS bombers came to WI. I haven't really even bought anything from them other then the latest batch of Morning Delight in over 2 years. I never knew which beer was gonna come out of the can or bottle. Too bad because DDH Sue used to be one of my favorites.
     
  24. Jimmylikesbeer

    Jimmylikesbeer Initiate (147) Apr 27, 2017 Michigan
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    I’m gonna try for a ticket. $100 is worthit when u can turn around & sell it for 4-5x that amount or trade it for a crap ton. I wouldn’t pay that mich to just drink. That’s what drives the price up
     
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  25. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,432) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    NO CHILL
     
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  26. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (306) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    Can't tell if this is high level trolling or one of the dumbest posts I've read on this site.
     
  27. JPick

    JPick Initiate (189) Sep 7, 2013 Missouri
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    I’ve never sold a beer in my life, but I’ll tell ya...at $100 for 12 oz, it’s hard to make a case that it’s actually worth drinking, and when it sells for $1,000, I think a case could be made that you’d be dumb NOT to sell it.
     
  28. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (306) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    It was more the contradiction in his post where he says drinking it is what drives up the price but selling it on the secondary market doesn't.
     
  29. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Technically, everyone that is consumed means that there is one less available for sale. The smaller the number in circulation, the more valuable the remaining ones become
     
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  30. Spewlander

    Spewlander Initiate (90) May 17, 2014 Minnesota
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    Term Oil is not a single thing and in some ways is more of a ‘line’ of beers. I believe that they first put a version on tap a few years ago and that one came from barrels that were not going to be used in the Assassin blend. Not ones that were deemed inferior but just didn’t fit into the profile they were going for. Sometimes it has adjuncts, sometimes just straight up. (The vanilla/cinnamon version at the old tap room was amazing). I believe they do indicate which barrels a blend came from and definitely what adjusts it may have but there’s not one beer that is Term Oil.
     
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  31. DesMoinesMike

    DesMoinesMike Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2008 Iowa

    I got a bottle of Sam Adams Utopia for $200 and even that was a better deal than this. Plus without the carbonation I can keep it for years.
     
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  32. errantnight

    errantnight Savant (929) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    It’s just worded poorly. He’s saying the cost is high to make drinking it hard when that same cost is so low compared to its open market value.

    This high cost encourages the secondary market, not discourages it, as it drives away people who might drink the beer and encourages the speculators.
     
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  33. hoptheology

    hoptheology Poo-Bah (5,311) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    *buys 8x 4-packs of CW BBA Scotch Ale instead*
     
  34. HammsMeASAP

    HammsMeASAP Initiate (120) Jun 14, 2012 Minnesota

    *buys 9 cases of Hamm's instead*
     
  35. Number1Framer

    Number1Framer Initiate (138) Mar 13, 2016 Wisconsin
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    *buys 1x Black Tuesday*
     
  36. Jimmylikesbeer

    Jimmylikesbeer Initiate (147) Apr 27, 2017 Michigan
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    I meant that the black market is what drives the price up....not drinking it
     
  37. Jimmylikesbeer

    Jimmylikesbeer Initiate (147) Apr 27, 2017 Michigan
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    That is exactly what I meant. I had a few & worded it wrong. But most people figured it out. I’ll be after 2 tickets. Plus, they’re gonna have Morning Delight available for I believe $46 a bottle limit 1 per person.
     
  38. deathstar

    deathstar Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2018 Iowa

    Question, with the non compete being a non factor for flenker, wonder if mike will stay around to watch clarks hype show. he cannot be a fan of all the greed going on here.
     
  39. pmccallum86

    pmccallum86 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2009 Minnesota

    He got equity I think so he is also getting riiich
     
  40. barrybeerdog

    barrybeerdog Initiate (136) Aug 17, 2012 South Dakota

    Hi Squire, my name is Charity...
     
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