Lagunitas Sucks hops

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  1. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    Hey all.

    I sent an email to Lagunitas on Friday inquiring about the hops they use in Sucks, and I got a response this morning. I also asked about future 32oz format plans. Here is the response

  2. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    kinda surprised at that hop bill
  3. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    Agreed. I was almost certain they used Citra.
  4. jcb7472

    jcb7472 Zealot (557) Jul 13, 2011 Florida
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    Dammit! Please make this year round, Lagunitas!
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  5. jglowe77

    jglowe77 Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2011 Massachusetts

    I had that HBC-342 hop variety in Slumbrew Snow Angel as well. Both are great beers; the Snow Angel is a little more sweet and has more fruit notes, whereas the Sucks is a little more aggressive and resiny and piney. Again, both are excellent.
  6. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    So maybe that's where the sweet fruity hop notes come from.
  7. BruChef

    BruChef Aspirant (237) Nov 8, 2009 New York

    Coulda sworn its dry hopped with citra.
  8. raffels

    raffels Initiate (168) Dec 12, 2009 West Virginia

    Chinook and Nugget. Now I know the answer to my question from last night about "what am I tasting". Both of those have flavors I find a bit overwhelming. Thanks...
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  9. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    A good cook never gives up all of the ingredients of a recipe. Does a good brewery give up all of the ingredients of a beer? Perhaps there are Citra hops in Sucks.
  10. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    I don't think the hops themselves are secret. I'm pretty sure they'd never reveal the hops schedule though. Although I'm not that familiar with HBC342, I've read that it has a citrus quality similar to Citra.
  11. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    That would be a good one to bug the wait staff at beer bars: "which is the best beer with HBC342 hops?" That would get you quite a look, I'd wager.
  12. MikeRoni

    MikeRoni Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2010 New Jersey

    HBC342 hops were developed by the same people who came up with Citra.
  13. luwak

    luwak Aspirant (269) Mar 2, 2010 Arizona
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    me too.
  14. jhartley

    jhartley Poo-Bah (2,438) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    I thought there was Chinook & Simcoe. Surprised as much as everyone else that there's no Citra.
  15. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Crusader (718) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    Thanks for the post! Good information to know.
  16. CurtisMcArthur

    CurtisMcArthur Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2009 Tennessee

    Enjoying a Sucks now as I type. Very impressed with this beer
  17. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Devotee (486) Aug 21, 2012 New York
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    Anyone know the significance of the name "HBC342"?
  18. PackPride

    PackPride Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2011 North Carolina

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  19. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Devotee (486) Aug 21, 2012 New York
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    So it looks like its a patent number. Is it a composite of mixed hops? I couldn't tell from the description other than the fact that they were pellets. Interesting. Thanks for the site.
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  20. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

  21. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,382) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    As stated HBC=Hop Breeding Company. That was formed from Select Botanicals and John Hass's breeding programs.

    The 342 is the field trial number. sometimes you will see X-342. Citra was HBC-394, and Mosaic was X-369.

    Field trials, maybe a 2-3 acres, are the last step in the breeding program. If the hops have good agronomics and are liked by the brewers, then commercial planting begins and the hop is given a trade name.
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  22. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (2,591) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    After drinking another Sucks, I searched what hops where in it. This was great to find as it gave me a bit more info on the HBC 342 hops. I asked Toppling Goliath if they used this hop in any of their X-Hop batches.
  23. mechamifune

    mechamifune Devotee (431) Jan 26, 2008 North Carolina
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    thanks for posting, i've been wondering this myself.
  24. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    Citra used to be called X114 I think, pre 2009. There are tons of experimental hop strains, that won't be named until they pick up popularity.
  25. pixieskid

    pixieskid Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2009 Germany

    Curious to know what this new varitey will be called... citra had its number name stated above as did mosaic, could be the next hot hop.
  26. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    I wondered where that melon flavor came from.
  27. AnalogErik

    AnalogErik Disciple (377) Jul 23, 2013 Minnesota
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    How long before colorado starts spitting out Marijuana hopped beers? I believe the buds are of the same genus as hops.
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  28. DemoniChris

    DemoniChris Disciple (313) Jun 4, 2013 Nebraska

    People in Cali have already experimented doing so with wine. I wouldn't imagine too long before this becomes a thing if possible to maintain a steady brewing process.
  29. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    Secret ingredients in Sucks: Sour Diesel & OG Kush!
  30. zestd

    zestd Disciple (368) Jan 18, 2013 Idaho

    It needs Pineapple Express with a touch of the MILF weed...maybe the Brown Bomber too.
  31. eightman

    eightman Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2014 Iowa
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    What was the response from Toppling Goliath? I suspect they were testing out hops even newer than HBC-342.
  32. Donco

    Donco Devotee (495) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    If this is a "seasonal", wouldn't it make more sense to have it in the late Spring? Very much a hot weather beer!
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  33. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Aspirant (289) Feb 28, 2013 Illinois
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    i definitely thought it was nelson and citra
  34. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Poo-Bah (1,760) Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    Whatever they use, I don't care. Shit's insane.

    I wish I knew what Lagunitas used to get that tea flavor in their beer. Maybe it's their yeast? All their IPAs have a distinct flavor to me.
  35. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (2,591) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    They told me that they could not reveal which hops were being used.
  36. BigMike

    BigMike Meyvn (1,186) May 8, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Such an awesome well balanced brew!
  37. Rutgers13

    Rutgers13 Initiate (141) Nov 12, 2013 New Jersey

    I would think it is their "house" yeast. I do like that distinct flavor in their beers.
  38. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Poo-Bah (1,626) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland
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    Trainwreck Kush x with Sour Diesel x with Super Silver Haze. Mmm, liquid dreams.
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  39. CalgaryFMC

    CalgaryFMC Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2013 Alberta (Canada)

    Finally, finally found a six pack of Sucks here. Apollo? Interesting.
  40. Roudy

    Roudy Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2009 Georgia

    I bought a growler of Hanf (Hemp) beer from Siebensternbrau in Vienna last Thanksgiving. Served it to my daughter and her study abroad classmates at dinner. Definitely herbal tasting.
    #40 Roudy, Feb 4, 2014
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