Another thread in the NW forum this morning reminded me of this issue, which has really started to stick in my craw—mainly because it seems so arbitrarily applied. I'm hoping someone on here (maybe a bar owner or lawyer, or perhaps a state legislator who also happens to be a BA) can explain it to me in a way that makes sense. In Washington, minors can't go into "bars" or "pubs"—meaning apparently any establishment that serves beer, wine, and/or liquor that doesn't have some kind of wall (not sure on the height requirement) between where the alcohol is served and where the tables and chairs are (where food is served). It apparently doesn't matter if the place has a pretty wide food menu, and it doesn't matter how far from the bar you are sitting; as far as I can tell, what's needed is some kind of wall (I could be wrong about this). We've taken our kid to a place that has 20 taps and a pretty meager food menu, but has a wall—no problem. But then we go up the street to another place that has 5 taps and a much wider food menu, but no wall—and have been denied entry. Now I can see why certain bars are (and should be) adults only. These are not the places I want to take our child anyway. But there are other places that, aside from that missing wall, have a local, family-type atmosphere. On several occasions, we've had family in town and wanted to take them to a favorite pub/restaurant (which, by the way, we had been able to enter with our child as an infant) only to be told "no minors allowed." It's frustrating. And frankly it feels like we are being discriminated against. Just because I'm sitting in a pub, eating a meal and drinking a beer, doesn't mean I'm going to let our child consume alcohol. If we're far enough away from the bar at our own table, we're not exposing our child to undesirable language etc. And I can't imagine that having a kid on the premises is going to bother any of the other patrons either—although I guess some people can be pretty intolerant. I assume the laws are similar in Oregon. We ran into the same issue recently down in Portland, in a downtown hotel. We'd just gotten into town after a funeral and were famished, but the hotel restaurant was not open yet (around 3 p.m.) and they couldn't serve us food in the "bar" area, which was basically a bunch of tables and chairs and a big-screen TV. Made absolutely no sense to us. So we had to walk down the street to a Chipotle. Anyway, here's the applicable code from the RCW: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=66.44.310 I'd appreciate if anyone could explain this to me, it might help me figure out where I can and can't eat and drink for the next couple of decades. Cheers!