Lawson’s Finest Liquids Proudly Announces They Have Achieved 100% Solar Power Beer

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by riptorn, Nov 28, 2023.

  1. riptorn

    riptorn Maven (1,410) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    A fairly impressive feather in their cap.....
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  2. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Nicely done.

    Anderson Valley Brewing in rural northern California has been advertising this feat for at least 15 years. Glad to see more folks getting on it
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  3. Giantspace

    Giantspace Pooh-Bah (2,879) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I think Uinta is wind and solar powered. They were bought a year or two ago so not sure if they are still wind/solar.

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  4. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,436) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Tonewood Brewing in South Jersey...

    They also recapture all their CO2 and carb their beer with it...for the beer nerds, no it is not spunding, it is captured, pressurized to liquid form and stored to later carb their beers...

    Any one else have local places like this and the ones mentioned above? I'm guessing this feat has to be more and more common with newer breweries being built. Tonewood's original and much much smaller location is about 5 miles down the road and is still my favorite place on earth to enjoy a beer.

    This was their new production brewery opened about 2 years ago now in an old lumberyard building.
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  5. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,245) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    So I'm a little confused - the headline says 100% but the article says 60% of their utility bill? Is this differentiating between utilities for brewing vs. for operating their brewpub?
  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I imagine the solar only provides their energy needs. They still likely pay for gas to boil water and probably also have to pay a water/sweet bill
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The full(er) picture would be how much of their energy use is electric vs. other. I know that right now my personal utility bill is larger for gas than electricity.

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  8. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,363) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    I enjoyed the sustainability tour that Lawson’s did online a couple years back, I think during one of BA’s virtual beerfests during the height of COVID (although I may be remembering that incorrectly).
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  9. DCH

    DCH Pundit (955) Jun 12, 2013 New York

    So it’s literally a sip of sunshine?
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  10. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,728) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    My electric bill going solar is higher than it was before the panels went up. Yes they replaced the roof new. Yes there is interest. Yes I know it’s benefits outside of the consumer saving money. But dam these solar panel companies are swift. I know this post isn’t related to lawsons. But good for them for what they are doing.
  11. riptorn

    riptorn Maven (1,410) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    That's what I originally thought, but after reading again I'm thinking the 495 "solar modules" on the canopy over the 40 parking spaces provide 60%, and another "43kw AC system and series of over 140 solar panels [that] produce approximately 52,000 kWh of electricity per year" provides the other 40%, and maybe more.
  12. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,389) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I wonder if they have on site electricity storage or if their electric company does net metering. If they don't have one or both of those [for when the sun isn't shining] they would pay more for electricity in the evening than the day and it might account for stated difference. Or they are comparing electricity savings to all utility costs as suggested by @unlikelyspiderperson above. Either way it's a really poorly written and confusing sentence.
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  13. KP7

    KP7 Savant (1,101) Feb 8, 2021 Massachusetts

    I'm a little late to the party but this is exactly what I was thinking. When you calculate the actual energy use in the brewing process, I would expect that vast majority to be from gas to heat the mash and wort and not electricity to power everything else. While we definitely need more businesses in general to put up solar canopies and rooftop solar, I'd love to see a brewer really go all in--electrify the entire brewing process and then install or contract for wind and solar to offset the entire energy demand. A quick Google search shows off-the-shelf all-electric solutions for homebrewers, but I didn't see anything for commercial scale.

    Does anyone have a contact at Lawson's or maybe @jonphisher for Tonewood to ask if they could share the breakdown between gas and electricity usage?
  14. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,436) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I go there quite often and regularly talk to the bartenders are their old location. Where I could get info like that...I'm sure someone there must know but our paths I'm guessing never cross.
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  15. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,034) Feb 22, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    That’s kind of a perfect joke. :clap:
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  16. teromous

    teromous Grand Pooh-Bah (3,016) Mar 21, 2010 Virginia
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    That's pretty impressive to rely on 100% solar even through the winter.
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  17. goodbyeohio

    goodbyeohio Pooh-Bah (2,018) Jul 13, 2004 Connecticut
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    ill bet this is news to two roads :wink:
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  18. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,656) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    The 100% solar in the winter seems suspect IMO being in that high of a latitude with short days and even when the sun does come out during the day in Dec/Jan, it’s at a very low angle and not overhead.

    I live in Md and have a solar company come out to give me quotes. I wanted to see what it would take to be 100% off grid with solar, no reliance on the power company, and the break even return on investment was going to be 17 years. No thanks. Let me know when we can get that ROI to 7 years or less then we’ll talk again.
  19. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Maven (1,427) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I'm in the exact same boat on that issue. I would love to install a hybrid solar system with battery backup, but the cost even with federal incentives is just more than my wallet can hold.
    I have an electric vehicle as well, so charging that with the sun would be nice. My brew stove also runs on 220v, so running that with the sun would also help reduce the cost of a batch of beer, not to mention the lagering fridge and Keezer.
    As technology increases and solar panels and backup batteries become more energy efficient, hopefully the cost will come down, eventually.
    If they figure out a residential solid state battery backup bank, even better yet, as they are much more efficient than Li-On batteries.
    The new Toyota is supposed to get about 730 miles to a charge on a solid state battery.
    I'm all for solar powered everything, but the initial investment is steep.
    Are any breweries going wind powered?
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Kudos to that salesperson for providing honest information here.

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