Loving Duvel. Any suggestions?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by shwurr, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. shwurr

    shwurr Nov 15, 2012 California

    I'm relatively new to craft beer snobbery (but a beer lover for 50 years) and had fun getting into IPAs and Imp Stoughts. After getting a little burnt out on hopped up crafts, I tried some Belgians and Duvel brought me nearly to tears. It is in my opinion Nectar of the Gods. If I could buy this shit for a decent price, I could live the rest of my days at peace and content with the world. Any suggestions?
     
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  2. ImperialStoat

    ImperialStoat May 20, 2009 Ireland

    Uhhh...Keep buying Duvel?
     
  3. nyyfanatic213

    nyyfanatic213 Aug 24, 2011 New York
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    It depends on where you live, but Don de Dieu (Unibroue) is an excellent Belgian Strong Pale Ale for around $10 per 4pk
     
  4. draheim

    draheim Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Revise your definition of a "decent price." You get what you pay for. Cheers!
     
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  5. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    Well, it's certainly not the 'easy' way out, but it would be cost effective (eventually) to get a small, quality home-brew setup and brew a clone. Duvel is (if I remember correctly) simply Belgian Pils malt and white table sugar, with hops, and a yeast that's available commercially (from Wyeast, and maybe White Labs as well, I can't remember). The cheapest way to do this would be all-grain (though you could certainly go the easier route and do dry extract beers) and, if you brewed half-batches, you could even do this without getting a fancy propane burner and going outside. Granted, you're looking at several hundred dollars for the whole set-up (less, if brewing extract) but the beer itself would be FAR less expensive. Will it taste EXACTLY like Duvel? No. The book 'Brew Like a Monk' tells all about Duvel's fermentation/temperature control procedure and, if I remember correctly, it's pretty rigorous. Still, you could get pretty close, and for lots less than the commercial product.

    I'll probably be called out, but I've found very few to rival Duvel in it's particular style. I don't agree (though many do) that North Coast's Pranqster's a close approximation, or anywhere near as good. Unibroue's Don de Dieu would be my suggestion for you to try next (around $9.00 a 4-pk); it's somewhat similar to Duvel and deft. a bit cheaper.
     
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  6. fritts211

    fritts211 Feb 19, 2011 Tennessee
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    Move to Belgium.

    Or cash out your 401k and buy in bulk.
     
  7. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Oct 22, 2010 Oklahoma

    If you dig that Belgian Strong Pale Ale, then sift through these and knock yourself out. Some of my very favorite beers reside within this style.
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/55
     
  8. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer May 10, 2012 Illinois

    Drink less (but better) beer.
     
  9. JimDH

    JimDH Feb 7, 2011 Kentucky

    I second La Fin du Monde. Though it shares characteristics the flavor is unique and I would not call it a clone.
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/34

    Also try Brooklyn Local 1 if you can get it. It's much cheaper per ounce, though I believe it's packaged only in 750 ml bottles.
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/45/35328
     
  10. Thickfreakness

    Thickfreakness Oct 2, 2010 New York

    Brilliant beer! One of my all time favorites!
     
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  11. mattsander

    mattsander Feb 3, 2010 Alberta (Canada)
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    While Duvel and La Fin du Monde are both pale, strong and awesome, I would never call either a clone of the other, way different flavor profile. La fin du monde has huge yeast character.
     
  12. gatornation

    gatornation Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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  13. highdesertdrinker

    highdesertdrinker Nov 5, 2012 Arizona
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    I love Belgian style beers and I love La Fin Du Monde! It is so sweet and strong @ 9% which is a tad higher than Duvel but hides the alcohol a little better than Duvel IMO and you can't beat the price for a world class beer.
     
  14. Zimbo

    Zimbo Aug 7, 2010 United Kingdom (Scotland)

    Define 'Decent price'.
     
  15. draheim

    draheim Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    ???

    Ommegang and Duvel are owned (or at least run) by the same company (Moortgat) and, at least around here, priced pretty similarly: around $10 for a 750 of the standard lineup.

    But Ommegang doesn't even offer much in the way of BSPAs, aside from Gnomegang, which is more expensive and barrel-aged, and Duvel Rustica, which isn't as good. And neither are year-round beers, as far as I know.

    Like ImperialStoat above, I recommend that the OP just keep drinking Duvel. He's not likely to find a satisfactory replacement that's substantially cheaper.
     
  16. gatornation

    gatornation Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    good god then throw in Maredsous just throwing out Ommegang brews dont need anal replies or troll
     
  17. Ri0

    Ri0 Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I have the same dilemma. Love Duvel, but too expensive. I found Pranqster, from North Cost Brewery. Its awesome for the price. Give it a try.

    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/112/411/?ba=Ri0
     
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  18. TinCup69

    TinCup69 Jun 26, 2012 West Virginia

    I love me some Duvel, easily one of my favorite beers.
     
  19. Pahn

    Pahn Dec 2, 2009 New York
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    keep buying duvel, and just experiment with other belgians. all the trappists are good. unibroue, allagash, ommegang, russian river, lost abbey all do decent north american takes on such styles.

    in my opinion, nothing quite tops duvel though. it's the epitome of what a "complex" beer should be: so much going on, but none of it is "difficult"--just all delicious. learning to appreciate its nuances is just a matter of finding more and more flavors, rather than learning to accept them or whatever.

    (as opposed to, say, wild ales, where lots of people have to reevaluate what they perceive as good--often to great results, since there's so many excellent wild ales, but still)
     
  20. loafinaround

    loafinaround Jul 16, 2011 New York

    my first preferred craft beer was val dieu triple. mighty delish! Won't save you any cash though. it probably costs a few $ more than duvel.
     
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  21. nyyfanatic213

    nyyfanatic213 Aug 24, 2011 New York
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    Ommegang is one of my top 5 favorite breweries. The cost is relatively low, but the fact that Duvel owns them prevents them from consistently releasing a Strong Pale to compete with the parent product.
     
  22. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    I recently had mischief by the bruery. While not a complete clone I found the style similar with a bit more of a hops and yeast flavor. Definately full of wonderful fine bubbles and lacing like Duvel. If you can find it, definitely give it a try!
     
  23. bellce0

    bellce0 Feb 20, 2010 Georgia

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  24. gatornation

    gatornation Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/42/86339
    try this one
     
  25. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Jan 2, 2010 California
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    Duvel is actually a good price if you buy the VAP with the sweet Tulip. It is the same price as buying four individual shorty bottles but the tulip tags along free of charge. Duvel is great, but the reason I always have some in my fridge is because dem glasses, so purty.
     
  26. draheim

    draheim Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Just trying to help the OP find what he's looking for, which I think he's already found. You might want to look up "troll".
     
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  27. gatornation

    gatornation Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    dont have to found you
     
  28. draheim

    draheim Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    This is the sound of me crying myself to sleep.
     
  29. gatornation

    gatornation Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    That a boy so sad:(
     
  30. funhog

    funhog Mar 8, 2011 Illinois
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  31. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Jan 11, 2013 New York

    I don't taste that at all, and LFDM is a Trippel
     
  32. draheim

    draheim Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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  33. shwurr

    shwurr Nov 15, 2012 California

    :) Now now ....gentlemen...seriously thank you all for your varied opinions. It's why I've lurked here a lot. I'm in Cal and have tried Prankster and La fin du Monde. Liked them but somewhat offput by the odd spice flavor that seems to always dominate irritatingly. What struck me about Duvel was I could NOT separate the taste into competing flavors. Like the blend was that perfect and balanced. Reminded me of my first beer, stolen from my uncle and stashed to be savored slowly and privately. Absolutely wicked.
     
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  34. papat444

    papat444 Dec 28, 2006 Quebec (Canada)
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    The end of the world isn't funny ;)
     
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  35. Ri0

    Ri0 Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    That's what happens when you deal with the Devil.
    Would I buy Duvel over Pranqster if price was no issue? Absolutely. Sadly price is an issue so I enjoy Pranqster.
     
  36. drtth

    drtth Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    http://beeradvocate.com/lists/style/55
     
  37. jplopez21

    jplopez21 Nov 14, 2012 Illinois
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  38. hopsputin

    hopsputin Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey

    I don't really see it much around me so can't speak for price, but if you like Duvel give Rare VOS a shot. Very tasty.
     
  39. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    That's what I was thinking, they're owned by Duvel and can be found for a little less money depending on where you live.
     
  40. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    LFDM and Duvel are NOT the same at all. I prefer Duvel anyhow. I actually stumbled across LFDM when searching for duvel and while i enjoyed it, wished it was Duvel.
     
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