Mississippi ABW Bill

Discussion in 'South' started by GeorgiaBrewed, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. GeorgiaBrewed

    GeorgiaBrewed Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2012 Mississippi

    Today, HB 1422 passed in the Mississippi House of Representatives. If the bill becomes law, it will raise the ABW limit from 5% to 8%. There's still a long way to go regarding beer laws in Mississippi, but this is a good start.
     
  2. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    It's a lot further then the bills have ever gotten
     
  3. Robertparker

    Robertparker Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Mississippi

    Such great news
     
  4. drakulya

    drakulya Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2006 Louisiana

    Very good news. I visit family in Jackson quite often and having a bit better selection would be wonderful.
     
  5. EricCioe

    EricCioe Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2010 Montana

    The optimist in me says congratulations for success with this bill so far.

    The cynic in me says maybe in a decade or two you will be able to drink the beers the rest of America has been drinking for twenty years.
     
  6. cvm4

    cvm4 Meyvn (1,102) Apr 27, 2011 Mississippi
    Beer Trader

    Seems to be a lot of momentum behind this bill this year, (read: since Bud-Inbev got involved).
     
  7. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    People told Free the Hops that we would never change the permissible ABV in Alabama.

    In May 2009 the Gourmet Beer Bill was signed into law which increased the permissible ABV from 6 to 13.9, after 4 years of lobbying, and we have not had chance to look back on it due to the sheer volume of world class breweries we now have - Great Divide, Avery, Bell's, Founders, Chimay, St Bernardus.....
     
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  8. EricCioe

    EricCioe Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2010 Montana

    I applaud your efforts. We're going through some similar stuff up here in MT regarding production limits and taprooms. The alcohol laws are very hard to change everywhere, even when they make little sense.
     
  9. OskarsBamaBlues

    OskarsBamaBlues Initiate (155) Jun 28, 2005 Georgia
    Beer Trader

    Congratulations! 8% abw is about 10% abv, so this would open up a world of new beers for Mississippi. Does the bill still have to go through the Senate, or has it already been passed by them?
     
  10. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    It still has to go through their senate. There are many crossed fingers in AL for this!
     
  11. OskarsBamaBlues

    OskarsBamaBlues Initiate (155) Jun 28, 2005 Georgia
    Beer Trader

    Mississippi doesn't have the same archaic container size restrictions as Alabama, right? I seem to remember seeing some 40-oz. macro bottles in convenience stores there many years ago. Mississippi being able to sell 22-oz. & 750ml bottles of high gravity beer would certainly help the cause in Alabama, as then EVERY state that borders Alabama wouldn't have that ridiculous restriction.
     
  12. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    Correct. You can get 40s of malt liquor but no Belgian dubbels or tripels.

    And AL is the only state with the farcical 16oz container size limit.
     
  13. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    We get growlers and bombers of Rogue these days so I guess there's no restrictions
     
  14. cvm4

    cvm4 Meyvn (1,102) Apr 27, 2011 Mississippi
    Beer Trader

    Yup... Hops & Habanas in Madison, MS fills growlers of whatever he has on tap.
     
  15. sommersb

    sommersb Initiate (0) May 25, 2010 Tennessee
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  16. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    awesome news!
     
  17. southdeltan

    southdeltan Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2007 Mississippi

    Both the House and Senate bills have passed floor votes and have been sent to the other chamber. Even though these bills are identical, one of them has to pass both chambers to be sent to the governor. The fact that both have passed out of their respective chambers is a great sign that one of them will likely make it to the governor.

    Governor Bryant was opposed to this bill last year, but this year he has indicated he supports the bill. Incidentally, this year the major distributors in the state changed their stance and supported the bill. I would rant about this, but as long as it gets passed and he signs it - I'm happy.

    In other news, SB 2600 ( http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2012/pdf/history/SB/SB2600.xml ) which would allow brewers to provide up to 6 samples (that are 6 ounces or smaller) per day to people taking brewery tours (of legal drinking age, of course) passed. Right now, this mainly helps Lazy Magnolia, but there is at least 1 other brewery start up (Lucky Town) in the works. This bill will have to go through the House.

    Also, Lazy Mag has another bill sponsored that passed: SB 2370 ( http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2012/pdf/history/SB/SB2370.xml ) which would allow them (and any other breweries) to brew beer for sale in other states up to that states limit. They just couldn't sell it in MS if it was over 5% abw (or 8% if one of the ABW bills passes).
     
  18. tweidman420

    tweidman420 Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2005 Louisiana

    Yeah, it's funny how all of a sudden these bills get passed as soon as AB and the distributors get behind it. But, I suppose the ends will justify the means.
     
  19. southdeltan

    southdeltan Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2007 Mississippi

    Senate Bill 2878 passed the House Floor today. I wasn't expecting it to come up so soon, but it did. Next step, the Governor's desk.
     
  20. cvm4

    cvm4 Meyvn (1,102) Apr 27, 2011 Mississippi
    Beer Trader

    Hoozahhhh!! When are some MS BA's getting together to celebrate? :D That is, when it's signed?
     
  21. southdeltan

    southdeltan Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2007 Mississippi

    Not sure - I'd check the RYP Facebook page and group. Of course, this won't become law until July 1st, if it is signed. I've heard some are celebrating just the fact that it passed both chambers tonight.
     
  22. cvm4

    cvm4 Meyvn (1,102) Apr 27, 2011 Mississippi
    Beer Trader

    Still has to go through the govenor... I don't count my chicks before they hatch. But, you're right in that it going through both chambers is a celebration on it's on!
     
  23. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    It's amazing how far this bill has gotten so far, I'm confident it passes the governor's desk. I won't wait to start contacting breweries, so far. Spoke with a Terrapin rep a few weeks ago, they're ready for MS, so is Rogue. Good People said they're willing to distribute too, too bad they are already working at top capacity and barely able to supply their areas.
     
  24. southdeltan

    southdeltan Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2007 Mississippi

    Since Rogue is already in MS, that's not surprise. If this is signed, it's been pretty much accepted that breweries already with a presence in the state will be the first to bring in higher alcohol beers. I'd say regional breweries would be next. Looking forward to getting NOLA Brewing beers in MS and trying as many other beers as possible.
     
  25. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    Here's a message from the RYP peeps:

    Please do not contact the governor and demand he signs the bill, stay polite, if you don't know how to word things, check with Butch, Todd or Craig first. They're easy to reach on Facebook. Being rude to some one who's already halfway on the fence about this bill won't help us at all. Thanking the people who voted for this bill in the house and senate is great, acting like little kids who didn't get their sucker towards people who voted no will get us nowhere in the future, there's still other bills that need to be pushed in the future!
     
  26. southdeltan

    southdeltan Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2007 Mississippi

    The bill has hit the governors desk. He has 5 days to sign or veto. If he fails to do either, it will become law without his signature. So, by Saturday we should know something.

    RYP has decided to just hang back (lobbyist suggestion, I believe), there isn't a big campaign to contact the governor. If you want to contact, by all means you can, but please be respectful and just encourage him to sign it.

    I've got a bottle of Stone Ruination waiting to celebrate.... or drown my sorrows.
     
  27. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    We have some Expedition Stout ready, not sure how it ended up my fridge office ;)
     
  28. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    well... Expedition is 10.5% ABV, which is 8.4% ABW....
     
  29. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    well... I'll over celebrate a bit then
     
  30. SHODriver

    SHODriver Meyvn (1,335) Aug 13, 2010 Louisiana
    Beer Trader

    best of luck to you guys. my short time living there was torture. I still remember spending a ton of money in FL on beer to tide me over.
     
  31. biggmike

    biggmike Champion (800) May 7, 2007 Mississippi

    The bill hit the governor's desk on Monday April 2. He has until the following Monday to veto the bill or sign it. If he signs it, it becomes law. If he ignores it and the 5 business days pass, it becomes law. The only thing that can stop it now is a veto.
     
  32. yesferro

    yesferro Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2008 Mississippi

    He has a lot on his plate right now, I can easily see him just ignoring it. Don't get me wrong, I want this to pass really bad but there's way more important things going on demanding his attention right now
     
  33. swooshjtb

    swooshjtb Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2010 Mississippi

    If he ignores it until Monday, I believe it passes. I think he has to actually veto it for it not to pass.
     
  34. swooshjtb

    swooshjtb Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2010 Mississippi

    Whoops, I didn't read the whole thread. @biggmike said the same thing right before me.
     
  35. southdeltan

    southdeltan Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2007 Mississippi

  36. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    congratulations to our brothers in Mississippi! I'll be raising a Celebrator to them tonight :)
     
  37. JakeBoundary

    JakeBoundary Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2006 Texas

    Awesome. Great news for Mississippians.

    However, I can't help but play devil's advocate on this issue just a bit, so, can somebody please just explain to me...yo what's wrong with the beer we got?
     
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  38. leedorham

    leedorham Defender (690) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    I drink Chivas Regal. It is certified safe!
     
  39. trill

    trill Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2007 Mississippi

    WOOOOOOO. We'll be celebrating at the Keg and Barrel this evening if any of y'all are in Hattiesburg.
     
  40. Robertparker

    Robertparker Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Mississippi

    Wow, it finally happened! Now I might not have to drive to Mobile and New Orleans as much.
     
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