Never a 5

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  1. jbertsch

    jbertsch Meyvn (1,069) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    The only beer I've reviewed and scored a perfect 5 was Mo from Maine Beer Co. That's right - no improvement in any category was fathomable to me. But if there was a "value" score, it would not have a 5, I can tell you that.

    If I actually reviewed some of Hill Farmstead's pale ales (not the just marked them as "had's") I would probably have a couple more perfect 5's under my reviews.
  2. Bay01

    Bay01 Aspirant (278) Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    King Henry is (was?) a 5.
  3. roroChp

    roroChp Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2013 Texas

    Its hard to give anything a 5 unless your palate has been around and it can also be risky on some beers. Look at what happened with hopslam, it received rave reviews from many even a few 5's but this years batch was disappointing to many.
  4. kodt

    kodt Zealot (505) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois

    BCBS Rare was the only one I think.
  5. Kyrojack

    Kyrojack Disciple (335) Oct 9, 2012 Indiana
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    Prima Pils for a German Pilsner. Best you can get anywhere.
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  6. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    IF I reviewed beer, The Bruery Fruet would get straights 5's.
    As I said in another thread, if you said I had to drink Fruet for the rest of my life, I'm ok with that.
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  7. stonermouse

    stonermouse Devotee (482) Aug 16, 2006 Massachusetts
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    My two "perfect 5's" are BB Plead the 5th and Heady Topper. I have no problem doing it, mostly if the beer leaves me daydreaming about it for the weeks and months between tastings.

    Of course, I give very little consideration to style when I review- the perfect beer of a less-than-exciting style should not get a 5 in my opinion. Otherwise, I may have dished out a few more.
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  8. loweball727

    loweball727 Aspirant (214) Apr 26, 2010 Ohio
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    Every "perfect beer" has some aspect to it that you can say "That's pretty damn good but ______ was better because ______. There isn't a perfect beer in the world but that's just my small opinion.
  9. kojevergas

    kojevergas Poo-Bah (7,093) Aug 15, 2010 Colorado
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    I actually approach particularly rare and hyped beers with heavy skepticism. I expected to be underwhelmed by Westvleteren 12 and the like. The best beers I've had have always exceeded expectations - even if they're high starting out.

    So that's a non-issue.

    And I also get really nitpicky with great beers. Could the carbonation be slightly better? Yes? Then it's not perfect.
  10. josephwa

    josephwa Devotee (463) Jun 4, 2012 Minnesota
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    I have a lot of fives but I'm not too shy to give out a 2 once in a while :slight_smile:

    Here are my fives:
    CBS, KBS, Abner, Double Sunshine, BA Monster 29, Fifteen, BA Darkness, Heady, Furious, BB4D, Sucks, Parabola, BA Batch 9000, BCBS, BCBCS & Twisted Trace.
  11. hornsup

    hornsup Disciple (324) Nov 29, 2012 Virginia
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    I would assume that everyone should have a 5...otherwise what's you're comparison to "flawless"
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  12. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Poo-Bah (3,014) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Please let it be "is" :stuck_out_tongue:
  13. herrburgess

    herrburgess Meyvn (1,010) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    See below:

  14. Lare453

    Lare453 Meyvn (1,312) Feb 1, 2012 Florida
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    Black Tuesday

    Close to 5
    Imperial sweet stout
    Capricho batch 5
  15. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,132) Mar 18, 2010 California

    My only 5 is Anchor Steam. I have not had another beer of the style that was anywhere near as good. It's balanced, readily available, and cheap - all of which factor into the rating.
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  16. zachary80

    zachary80 Devotee (492) Nov 29, 2009 Indiana

    I don't like reviewing from notes, and there are situations where I also don't want to pull out my computer. Most of the time I'm drinking something of that caliber it is with a one or two other people who also love great beer and we will talk it over. If something has few reviews I'm more inclined to review it just so that there is at least some reference for people looking it up. Overall I'm just not a heavy reviewer
  17. Dreadnaught33

    Dreadnaught33 Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2009 District of Columbia

    For me, Three Floyds Vanilla Bean Dark Lord on tap in 2009 was the best beer ever, and there is no way it could have been better! Boneyard Notorious was the most recent beer I've had that was so, so close to a 5.
  18. BradStokley

    BradStokley Disciple (348) Jan 19, 2013 Maryland
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    I'm not a beer rater. But if I was, the only 5 I've ever had was Black Note. Phenomenal beer.
  19. decimator

    decimator Zealot (572) Jun 1, 2009 Ontario (Canada)

    I've never given a beer all 5s but I've given a few 5s in certain categories.

    My highest rated beer (La Trappe Quadrupel - Oak Aged) has two 5s and a 4.68 overall. Despite being a great beer I found the appearance wasn't a stand out for the style.
  20. eduardolinhalis

    eduardolinhalis Meyvn (1,378) Jan 10, 2009 Switzerland

    If man is 5, and the devil is 6... but if the devil is six then God is 7!

  21. mp19

    mp19 Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2013 Virginia

    I haven't reviewed any beers on here yet. A couple hads just to do it. Haven't figured out my criterion yet. But honestly I try not to get caught up in the "perfect overall beer" or even best fitting to a style. I think the better thing to search for/strive for as a drinker,( different for a brewer obviously) is having the right beer at the right time. The style that you are in the mood for and the nuances or lack thereof that you are looking for in said style. Example: I've been drinking a bunch of IPA's lately and my palate had just had enough of the big IBU beers. I just wanted something simple, malty, but still a little bit of hop presence, and not too sweet. I found a perfect beer for that time. I would not have rather had anything else that I've ever tried. (500+) And in my opinion the ability to figure out what your palate craves at that time and finding the perfect beer for that time is way more useful. That's why I can't understand why people only like trying new beers. I love trying new beers but why wouldn't I come back to something that I know I love and I crave at that time.

    Also can anyone guess my perfect beer for that time? Hint: Most on here have had it- National distribution
  22. gcamparone

    gcamparone Meyvn (1,323) Dec 6, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Giving a beer would be like ending my search to find the perfect beer
  23. mnphish

    mnphish Disciple (339) Aug 19, 2012 Minnesota

    Westy 12 End/
  24. Hopsiam14

    Hopsiam14 Devotee (456) Jan 23, 2013 Minnesota
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    Heady Topper, bourbon county, CW BBBW. Maybe I'm too easy to please...
  25. JamesMN

    JamesMN Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 Minnesota

    A rating of 5/5 can only come from a perfect storm of circumstances. Right beer, right mood, right time of the night: first drink/second/third/etc, enough time to truly enjoy, and on and on.
  26. 1up

    1up Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2013 District of Columbia

    Like ........ perfect storm??? (Pelican Pub)
  27. Chaney

    Chaney Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2006 District of Columbia

    Goose Island BCBCS. Seriously, I don't think there is any room for improvement on that beer, especially for what it is. Out of nearly 1200 reviews, it's the only 5 I've ever given.
  28. mp19

    mp19 Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2013 Virginia

    Fat Tire. And by no means is it a five. A couples days later I had it and was like meh. But it was the perfect beer at the perfect time.
  29. BrewTasting

    BrewTasting Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2010 Nevada
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    If you have the best beer you've ever had, it's a 5. Even if you have a better beer down the road, you're 5 was justified at that time.
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  30. Premo88

    Premo88 Meyvn (1,367) Jun 6, 2010 Texas

    Our palates change from day to day ...

    ... most spot-on thing I've read on BA in three months, and there's lots of well-made points on here (and in this thread alone).

    Part of why I don't give out 5s left and right is exactly because a beer often changes how it tastes to me on a day-to-day basis. Most get better, but some don't (Old Peculier, Samuel Smith's Pure Brewed Lager Beer got worse by a little). So I'm careful giving out 5s because what tastes like a 5 one day might not live up to that the next.

    As SadMachine also points out, though, why not give something a 5 if you feel in that moment it deserves a 5? Maybe those of us who fear the 5 like me shouldn't be so careful at times. It's a great point ...
  31. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Aspirant (202) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    I think a lot of BAs must be masochists. To struggle and search for flaws seems contrary to the point of having a beer.
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  32. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Poo-Bah (1,944) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    I think I've rated 2 beers a 5 out of the 390 that I've reviewed. One of them is decidedly well liked by the BA community, the other not so much.
  33. GameFreac

    GameFreac Disciple (371) Apr 8, 2011 Georgia
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    The beers I have at a 5 are CBS, FBS (2011 - for the record 2012 was still great but I'm not saying it sucked like a lot of people did) and Lagunitas Sucks.
  34. weeare138

    weeare138 Poo-Bah (3,402) Apr 1, 2003 Pennsylvania

    I've rated almost 2500 beers and I've never felt compelled to give a 5. Once I would've done that --game over. Why bother to continue the hunt?
    I've had a few that I would put up there though. My rating days are pretty much spent at this point and there are several outstanding ones not logged but the best few I've had recently were Hill Farmstead's Juicy, and The Bruery's White Chocolate. Those two would be in my upper tier right now.
  35. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Aspirant (202) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    My mirrors are black for you.
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  36. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Meyvn (1,250) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    So far, I gave out one 5 (had) for FW's 16th Anniversary. I wasn't reviewing then (2 weeks ago) and I had it at a bar, but I was just blown away. This was my first FW and thus my first of their Anniversary series. After smelling it, I cracked a huge grin because I knew it was going to be good. Then, I took a sip and I was blown away. It was just so complex and different. Every sip brought up different flavor profiles, and there were eddies of specific flavors within your mouth after each sip. I mean just reading the description of what went into that beer had me salivating. Not sure how you would improve that. Each of their Anniversary blends are different, but I mean it is not really a specific style to me since it is a blend of the most ridiculous things, but ends up tasting brilliant. Like how did they decide on that mixture. That one had some magic in it.
  37. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    Never had a 5, but one night, I drank 5 ones.
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  38. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Devotee (479) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    Do you deliberately avoid one-time brews, then? Because if one of them is a 5, you quit drinking altogether.
  39. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    I don't review much, but for a quick rating, I'm rating based on "overall" how much I liked it. I'm looking pretty much at flavor for those ratings. If I gave them a full review I'm sure they'd come down to a lower number between 5 and 4.5, but does it really matter? Flavor is the most important.
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  40. hagbergl

    hagbergl Devotee (405) Aug 27, 2009 Maryland

    I have reviewed only one "5's-across-the-board" beer–Hill Farmstead Society & Solitude #4 DIPA. It was absolute hop perfection. The Bruery's Oude Tart Flanders Red Ale and Rochefort 8 came really close (4.98).
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