New Dogfish Head/Sierra Nevada IPA glass announced

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  1. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    No, but they haven't demonstrated the superiority of this design over a standard tulip or snifter. The thing about the ridges at the bottom is actively laughable. It's also sort of funny that they tout thin glass as helping maintain temperature, when the large surface-area/volume ratio works the other way (and I'm dubious about the thickness of the glass really mattering for temperature maintenance, given the relative volumes and heat capacities that we're talking about, and if it really matters you can just chill your glass). And, of course, those little laser-etched nucleation points do stuff, but it's not nearly as effective as they claim. The only time I've ever seen those things maintain head was with a super-overcarbonated beer.

    The whole thing is just a giant pile of BS. If you want to make a glass that looks bizarre then do it. People like things that look bizarre. But don't pretend it's some state-of-the-art magic glass when it's not.
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  2. WagonCircler

    WagonCircler Initiate (131) May 15, 2011 New York
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    This seems like a good place to put this: Anyone else DFH signature glass logos wash off? I have only hand washed them, just like the rest of my beer glasses, and both logos are gone. I dont care about the logo at all. Just wondering if this happens to all of their glasses.
  3. CBlack85

    CBlack85 Crusader (703) Jul 12, 2009 South Carolina
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    I have a couple of the DFH shaped pint glasses and within 6 months of carefully handwashing them the logos were almost completely gone...
  4. Stinky-Dinkins

    Stinky-Dinkins Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2013 New Hampshire

    When did you buy yours? Do they have the little 12oz pour line on the sides of the glasses?

    I use my DFH signature glass a good 3 times a week, and I handwash it every time (I've had it for about a year or so.) My logo still looks brand new.

    I've read a bunch of people whose logos still look new, and a bunch whose logos have washed off completely even though they were treated carefully.

    I'm thinking maybe a certain batch were more prone to it, or an early run before they switched glass manufacturers (which I've read happened at some point) or something.
  5. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    how, pray tell, would you be happy with them "demonstrating" the superiority of the design? they tested a bunch of styles, which, if you read the article closely, implies they probably were testing standard riedel styles, including the champagne flute that is very similar to this, and found empirically, in a taste test, that it was superior. then they modified it a little bit to fit their needs better - again, if you look at the glass, they shaped the upper bowl section a little more like a standard beer glass.

    sure - i think it's silly that they talk about the waves on the bottom, and the nucleation point, etc., but the point remains, unless they're bald faced lying to us, they TASTE TESTED beer out of several glasses, and this one won. they didn't make the glass look like this because they wanted to make a weird glass, they made the glass look like this because it was a glass that more or less already existed, and it performed better than anything else they tried. if you believe what they wrote (again, i do), it performed significantly better.

    i, for one, look forward to trying it.
  6. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    They didn't do it blind (and yes, that can be done), therefore useless. Perceptions are largely in the brain, as hundreds of studies attest, and eyes can fool other senses. So, yes, they "tested" this glass, and it was the best because they wanted it to be the best, not because it's actually the best. And you can tell this because their rationalizations for it are lol-worthy.
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  7. RPH2327

    RPH2327 Disciple (319) Dec 5, 2010 Pennsylvania


    This glass has always served me well.
  8. TinCup69

    TinCup69 Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2012 West Virginia

    I will pick up a couple of them.
  9. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Ordered one of the new glasses and a signature glass yesterday. Will it make my IPA drinking experience better? More than likely no. But I like different looking glassware.
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  10. brees6221

    brees6221 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2009 Western Sahara

    Were there some signature glasses made with printed logos on them? Mine and all of the ones I've seen have the laser etched logo and I don't think that's washing off.
  11. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Disciple (396) Nov 30, 2011 Ontario (Canada)

    That's what I thought when I first saw it. The ad copy with the design points about it having thin walls, being bowl shaped for hop aromas and having the laser etched bottom to help with carbonation seems like it was taken almost directly from the design of the Sam Adams glass.

  12. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

  13. Rifugium

    Rifugium Poo-Bah (5,623) Mar 2, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I never thought it possible, but I have no desire to own these.

    I'll probably still get them eventually anyway though.
  14. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    It looks like some sort of adult novelty toy. (I hope my self censoring prevents me from getting a warning).
  15. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    They say they were custom made for IPAs, but didn't someone post a picture of them as champagne glasses? So they already existed and aren't really something new?
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  16. steebo777

    steebo777 Zealot (511) Jun 30, 2009 Michigan

    I got convinced to do a small group order with friends, so I ordered one. I do want to see if it does anything for IPAs differently from a snifter or perfect pint glass (doubtful).
  17. DoctorRock

    DoctorRock Initiate (115) May 13, 2010 Minnesota
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    sooooooo ugly
  18. Pecan

    Pecan Devotee (421) Dec 20, 2012 Arizona
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    I'd pick one up if it were in front of me to test the whole taste improvement theory, otherwise it's just another ugly glass to tarnish the reputation of my glass whalez shelf. I'm guessing my local bottle shop will be selling one of the versions soon and I'll have to eat my words and pony up the cash....
  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,267) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Spiegelau's page on the glass - IPA Glass (priced higher w/o logo than SN and DFH!). Also, contains a 4 minute video with Grossman and Caligione explaining the glass' benefits.
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  20. beerepiphany

    beerepiphany Initiate (50) Oct 19, 2010 Illinois

    Its ugly. I bought one.
  21. Pecan

    Pecan Devotee (421) Dec 20, 2012 Arizona
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    Oh god, it's a Spiegelau glass... It's not fair that brand influence is causing me to slowly change from thinking it's an ugly waste of space to kind of wanting one....
  22. dazedandconfused

    dazedandconfused Aspirant (254) Dec 11, 2008 New Jersey
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    As ugly as it is, I almost ordered it. But to ship 2 glasses from sierra nevada is $23!!
  23. jaIsPoAn

    jaIsPoAn Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2012 New York

  24. marshmeli

    marshmeli Devotee (420) Feb 14, 2012 New York
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    yeah looked at their shipping for them yesterday, that is pretty crazy, seems more than normal.
  25. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Meyvn (1,165) Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    Spiegelau will be selling the unbranded glasses starting in May for $25/pair.

    EDIT: jesskidden beat me to the punch!
  26. Jazzwalker

    Jazzwalker Initiate (147) Apr 2, 2012 New Jersey
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  27. SPRichard

    SPRichard Disciple (360) Apr 26, 2008 New Jersey

    Seems like Red Lobster beat them to the punch

  28. steebo777

    steebo777 Zealot (511) Jun 30, 2009 Michigan

    Hahaha, seriously?!?
  29. Jazzwalker

    Jazzwalker Initiate (147) Apr 2, 2012 New Jersey
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    You know, that glass is not half bad looking. I only wish the new DFH glass was thicker. I know why they made the glass thin, but I would have liked it thicker just the same. Feels like a high pitch would shatter it.....just saying.
  30. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    ISO :wink:
  31. dazedandconfused

    dazedandconfused Aspirant (254) Dec 11, 2008 New Jersey
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    I actually have that same red lobster glass lol. Never thought to drink beer out of it. I guess it's worth trying to throw an ipa in it.
  32. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    It seems like it took forever to process and ship my order...I'm three hours from DFH, oh well it will be here Monday, I guess I am just impatient.
  33. Lantern

    Lantern Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2011

    I like mine. The 'easily knocked over' excuse is shallow, 'cause if you hit a glass hard enough to knock it over, ANY glass will tilt over. The Rhizing Bines I'm drinking from it now still has head after 30 minutes. The little etching at the bottom is definitely releasing bubbles.

    If Russian River, Three Floyds or HF releases this glass, everybody loves it. If DFH does... well, you already know.
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  34. fmccormi

    fmccormi Meyvn (1,287) Oct 24, 2010 California
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    So, would you say that it really does make a difference? If so, is it mainly just retention and aroma?
  35. Lantern

    Lantern Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2011

    Yeah, I'd say a little of both. A fan of it, no matter what it looks like!
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  36. fmccormi

    fmccormi Meyvn (1,287) Oct 24, 2010 California
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    Sweet. Sounds good to me, man. I broke my Bruery tulip just the other day and my birthday's coming up—s'pose it's a sign to get some new glassware? :-)
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  37. Lantern

    Lantern Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2011

    I'd vote 'yes'!
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  38. RockAZ

    RockAZ Disciple (371) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona
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    Bought a pair of them and immediately discovered both my Gallic nose and lips cannot wedge themselves both in the narrow opening. A few more practice sips and I get the idea, Sam C. called it "Olfactory Cannon", aiming the narrow opening at my nose. The beehive ridges do stir up the beer during a sip, the etchings in the bottom send a constant stream of bubbles to the top. Speaking of etching, the logo is etched, no more fading stickers. The quality of the glass material is superb, musical tone from pinging the glass is loud and clear. Concerns about the thinness of the glass from the beehive up - its a handwasher for sure. I do think the narrow base that is slightly beveled is a little tippy, exercise care around where you set the glass down - better yet, don't put it down as it is comfortable to hold. Shipping was outrageous, but mine arrived intact because it was packed well (unlike my first Randall). Grab some of these at a special event in your town someday or stop bit$chin' about the shipping charge.

    And so - don't ask me for value judgements (was it worth the cost?), I would have wanted this glass anyway for my collection, but I will say I will use it for a while. Also say it does keep the bubbles in an IPA going, I tested it with Hopslam on draft in my house. It is 19oz all the way to the very top, and looks like it is made for probably a 16oz pour which leaves about an inch of head for the foam. The last few sips of the IPA are very pleasurable as the ridges stir up the beer, nice to have the last bitter dregs perform as well as the first. I might be keen to try one of those Red Lobster glasses from upthread, it does look similar. I expect I will be disappointed as it is not Spiegelau, which are always awesome works of art.
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  39. mnrider

    mnrider Crusader (701) May 26, 2009 Connecticut

    I might get the unbranded version. I hate branded glassware.
  40. El_Zilcho

    El_Zilcho Initiate (70) May 3, 2012 Virginia
    Or the champagne guys[​IMG]
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