Newbie Question - Whats up with wax?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by KevinGordon, Jan 16, 2013.

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  1. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    Some bottles are coated in wax. What gives? Besides making that bottle an incredible pain in the arse to open, does the wax serve any purpose besides looking fancy? I feel like I need Mr Miyagi to get the wax off..
     
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  2. mcaulifww

    mcaulifww Aug 18, 2011 Virginia

    it may create a better seal on bottles ment to be aged. a bottle that is just capped might let in some oxygen. otherwise, it just looks cute
     
  3. DSlim71

    DSlim71 Mar 3, 2010 New Jersey

    By coating the caps with wax, brewers are trying to prevent oxidation by not letting as much air in through the cap. Ideally, you will be able to age bottles longer because of the wax compared to regular capping.
     
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  4. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    thanks for the info!
     
  5. kdmcguire10

    kdmcguire10 Jul 15, 2011 Michigan

    The wax serves to reinforce the seal, adding some additional insurance against potential oxidation.

    Removing the wax can be done a number of different ways. I typically just score the entire area around the cap enough to allow me to get my standard opener latched on. Then, just pop it open as normal.
     
  6. Kadonny

    Kadonny Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I hate the wax purely for being a pain in the ass to open. I had an Olde Hickory this past weekend that I couldn't get the damn wax off of. Frustrating.
     
  7. UnderJoath

    UnderJoath Jul 29, 2010 Illinois
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    Practice, kiddies.
     
  8. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Jul 12, 2012 California

    lowers friction when we geeks attempt to self-penetrate with aged bottles
     
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  9. kenpo23

    kenpo23 Oct 8, 2009 Massachusetts

    Forget all of these logical reasons....
    the brewers just wanna play with some wax.
     
  10. Lare453

    Lare453 Feb 1, 2012 Florida
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    I wish there was a love button, not just a like.
     
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  11. mhksuccess

    mhksuccess Jul 7, 2012 California
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    I like the wax for aging but do agree that it is difficult to open
    I learned the hard way last year when I hosted a tasting and toward the end of the night after numerous beers
    tried to open a bottle of the Bruery CUIR and sliced my thumb
    drinking the bottle helped the pain but will definitely use a different method next time removing some was
     
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  12. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Wax: it's how a beer that would be $12 in sixpacks turns into a $22 750ml bottle.
     
  13. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    To open: take a knife and move from bottom of wax to the cap. Peel off. This makes it very easy to open.
    Also you can take a knife and make an "x" in the top of the cap an peel wax off like a banana.
    It does take a little practice.
     
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  14. ABisonEgo

    ABisonEgo Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    Ive heard that a bottle that is waxed always tastes better than unwaxed bottles. Example: Dark Lord vs Guinness
     
  15. dawatts

    dawatts Dec 27, 2006 Massachusetts

    Looks like Backlash is probably not waxing their bottles anymore. And "easier to open" is one of the reasons, and keeping costs lower. That being said, their wax dipped, and then brass knuckle stamped top is bad ass.

    http://backlashbeer.com/2012/12/03/wax-on-wax-off/
     
  16. LeRose

    LeRose Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I was thinking that with the intelligence displayed in some of the clips in the best beer videos thread, there must have been some nimrod somewhere who tried to melt the wax off with a blowtorch...or microwave...
     
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  17. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Feb 22, 2011 California

    I had an Arcadia BA Shipwreck Porter, and it was laughably difficult to open the beer.
     
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  18. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Too lazy to make a new label for each variation of the same beer.
     
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  19. Pecan

    Pecan Dec 20, 2012 Arizona
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    The real question is: Once I get through the wax, how the hell am I supposed to get this metal disk off the top? God, it's on there so tight and it makes it sooooo difficult to open. Advice?
     
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  20. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    It's also a way to persuade people subcontiously that the beer is extra special and thus worthy of a higher markup. It's like how wax seal stamps on envelopes look all fancy. Surely the sender wrote it with a feather dipped in ink.
     
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  21. RDMII

    RDMII Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    Waxed caps are fine and simple to remove, it's the waxed swing tops that I hate. Sweetwater's 1L 2010 Festive Ale took me 30 minutes to open and I had to vacuum the kitchen to get up all the little pieces.
     
  22. jacksback

    jacksback Jul 20, 2011 Massachusetts

    Hey, the beer was gonna suck anyway.
     
  23. JustXBeer

    JustXBeer Nov 29, 2012 California
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    that must have been fun :eek:
     
  24. TWStandley

    TWStandley Jan 15, 2008 Massachusetts
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    It is so that when you are drinking and the power goes out, you can pick up the wax, roll it into a ball, take off a shoelace and poke it through the middle to create a candle.
     
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  25. acevenom

    acevenom Oct 7, 2011 Louisiana

    That's where having a combination of a wine corkscrew and a bottle opener all in one tool is useful. It's a good grip and the length gives you plenty of leverage. I've had no trouble getting through wax with that thing.
     
  26. JustXBeer

    JustXBeer Nov 29, 2012 California
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    This works evey time
    [​IMG]
     
  27. drewone

    drewone Sep 18, 2006 California
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    Waxed caged and corked are the worst!
     
  28. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Despite the rationale of being better for long-term aging, I genuinely believe 90% of the bottles out there are waxed to stand out.

    Most wax comes off pretty easily once you've done it enough. Except The Bruery, because they use like a quarter inch of wax...
     
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  29. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Or Arbitrator's. That sadist likes to wax corked and caged beers.
     
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  30. JustXBeer

    JustXBeer Nov 29, 2012 California
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    Now that must be really fun...lol
     
  31. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    Sabre it.

     
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  32. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    I take it no one was paying attention to Ray Daniels tweet fest on wax about a month ago? He went into it IN depth, from type of wax, to why wax? If a beer does not get any oxygen thru the crown, how can it further develop, therefore what's the point? It was educational to say the least.
     
  33. Chelsea1905

    Chelsea1905 Sep 3, 2008 Washington
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    Shows of the years some bottles were waxed too.

    Personally I think some of it is a gimmick. Surely caged and corked is just as good, but if a brwery doesn't have acces to cage and cork, or even cap and cork, then I can see it being somehwat cool

    However, if it is meant to be for "aging" purposes to make sure a bottle doesn't oxidize, then why are some IPA's waxed? Surely you'd not want to age them anyway.
     
  34. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    I dont know about that comparison. I've never had Dark Lord, but isnt it possible that it tastes better than Guinness because Guinness doesn't taste that good?
     
  35. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    I wish I saw this, but I dont use twitter, so...
     
  36. LivingWeapon

    LivingWeapon Oct 29, 2012 Illinois

    I have yet to have a waxed bottle. But thats because Im young and poor. Probably going to go pick up a waxed bottle of something now, for some reason Im very curious as to how hard it is to get off.

    Nope. Its all because of the wax
     
  37. tgchief

    tgchief Nov 30, 2010 Iowa

    It's pinkies up...you know, fancy pants....nothing more. Lots of fun for brewers, messy additional costs for owners, gingerbread for marketers!
     
  38. ijaap

    ijaap Jan 5, 2013 Washington
    Beer Trader

    On the other side of the spectrum, it is ridiculously tedious to actually apply the wax to beers. Currently doing this. As a buyer, when I see a beer with a wax seal I always investigate said beer.
     
  39. ABisonEgo

    ABisonEgo Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    I was being completely sarcastic. As stated above, mostly for oxidation and aging purposes
     
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