Next Best Thing To Heady Topper or Pliny?

Discussion in 'New England' started by TechMarcom, Sep 30, 2013.

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  1. TechMarcom

    TechMarcom Initiate (0) Apr 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    For those of us in Massachusetts and southern New Hampshire that can’t get Pliny at all and can only get Heady Toper via driving to Vermont, are there any other Imperial IPAs that belong in the same category as these two hop stars? Any that can be more easily found around here - especially in the Lowell/Nashua/Manchester areas?
  2. VelvetExtract

    VelvetExtract Poo-Bah (3,149) Jan 10, 2010 Massachusetts

    Gandhi Bot! Gotta go to CT for it though.
  3. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    I don't know how the hops in Gandhi Bot compare to the hops in Heady, but I have always loved Gandhi Bot and if for some reason Heady was erased from the earth it'd be my favorite DIPA.
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  4. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    To the OP: The simple answer is Yes, there are IPAs/DIPAs that belong in the same category. Problem is, to get them, you need to drive farther north in VT than Waterbury. Bottom Line: If I want Heady Topper or a Hill Farmstead beer, I drive up to Vermont and make a weekend out of it. So...if you want Heady Topper or Hill Farmstead, drive up to Vermont. It's closer to you than to me and you could probably do it in a daytrip.
  5. patm1986

    patm1986 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2010 New Jersey
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    If you're just interested in an overall answer, look North to VT again. IMO, Abner bests all. In fact, look to the North for all.
  6. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Poo-Bah (1,760) Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    DRIPA by Kuhnhenn. I haven't had Heady Topper or Pliny, but I figure they'd be nothing like Hopslam... still, Hopslam. Always Hopslam.
  7. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Poo-Bah (1,807) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    Captain Lawrence Imperial IPA
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  8. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,241) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    It's not a DIPA and you probably can't get it in Mass., but I just had some Fat Heads Head Hunter and it was freaking fantastic! It's a pretty high ABV, so it's close to a DIPA, just not classified as one. Great, great beer.
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  9. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Crusader (700) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

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  10. TechMarcom

    TechMarcom Initiate (0) Apr 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    Thanks -- really hoping for one I can just get locally rather than an hour or more drive. Something avaiable in Acton MA, Chelmsford MA , Nashua NH, or even Manchester NH (work) would be preferable.
  11. utopiajane

    utopiajane Poo-Bah (2,408) Jun 11, 2013 New York

    Enjoy By is plenty good and you can find it almost everywhere :slight_smile: Sammyjaxxx beat me to the captain lawrence DIPA. That one is plenty good also.
  12. jmogator

    jmogator Initiate (146) Jun 20, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Have you tried Mass Rising by Jack's Abby? Technically a DIPL, but pretty damn tasty! It's my go-to ipa other than heady now.
  13. Horbar

    Horbar Zealot (560) Feb 24, 2012 Rhode Island

    Tree House Julius holds it's own with any IPA/DIPA.
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  14. dennho

    dennho Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2006 New York

  15. fistfight

    fistfight Initiate (178) Jan 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Jack's Abby Kiwi Rising is coming in the near future and Mass Rising is already here. I bought a few bottles of Mass Rising in Chelmsford. And the new Enjoy By is coming out soon I think.
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  16. LOCAL

    LOCAL Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2006 New Hampshire

    The cans of Wachusetts Larry are a pretty good offering for the area.
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  17. PEIhop

    PEIhop Crusader (752) Dec 2, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Trillium is making some great hoppy ales - fort point and tiny chicken were pretty killer
  18. meadnbrew

    meadnbrew Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Rhode Island

    Fisherman's Dead Eye DIPA by Cape Ann is so underrated. Bottle this ASAP!
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  19. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Poo-Bah (3,605) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    Was just thinking the same thing. Had it on-draft at Peppercorn's last weekend and was pretty impressed. They were selling cans - hoping that will become a permanent thing.
  20. ElGallo

    ElGallo Champion (813) Sep 26, 2009 New Hampshire

    Lunch, Sculpin, Be Hoppy, and soon enough Lagunitas Sucks. Plenty of good IPA/DIPA options in central New England year round. :grinning:
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  21. BRYeleJR

    BRYeleJR Disciple (323) May 18, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I'll second the recommendation of Larry from Wachusett. Very good DIPA that you can find in 22 oz. bottles and also cans now. (8.5 percent, 85 IBUs). Mass Rising (formerly the 2nd Anniversary DIPL) from Jack's Abby is also very, very good. Drinking a Quarter Mile from Blue Hills Brewing at the moment, and while it's not in the same category as Pliny or Heady, it's worth a shot.

    I think you're looking for more beers in Mass. or NH that are readily available, but if you do make it to VT, check out Lawson's Double Sunshine. So often everyone talks about Heady and Pliny, but I think Double Sunshine is as good as either of those.
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  22. iflah45

    iflah45 Aspirant (214) Jul 8, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Trillium Beaver Hat. Had this for the first time a week ago and holy balls is it incredible. Rivals anything that Alchemist, Lawson's, and HF puts out. The Northeast is officially hop heaven.
  23. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Zealot (534) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    Backlash Catalyst.

    New batch just came out recently in both bottles & draft. Heard positive reports on their Outbreak DIPA as well.
  24. MVP09

    MVP09 Devotee (417) Oct 19, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Larry gets my vote.

    Be Choppy and Hopulence are solis
  25. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    So I just moved back from the San Diego area to the Boston MA area. I am wondering what you guys consider the best IPA/DIPA there is in New England? Heady Topper is already known. Same as Hill Farmstead IPA's/DIPA's and Lawsons. Vermont is amazing (we all know). What else is out there?
  26. mrcraft

    mrcraft Meyvn (1,408) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    Maine Beer Co. Lunch is solid though not quite up to the ones you listed above.
  27. DougC123

    DougC123 Devotee (477) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Ghandi Bot and Ithica Flower Power are excellent.
  28. ChrisChagnon

    ChrisChagnon Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2013 Connecticut
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    Ghandi Bot for DIPA and Julius for IPA
  29. nolanz14

    nolanz14 Aspirant (289) Aug 31, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Based upon my experience:

    • Trillium - FPPA, Dry Stack and Tiny Chicken are all outstanding.
    • Tree House - haven't had Julius but Sap is amazing
    Available at select stores:
    • Wachusett Larry - really great DIPA and only gets better w/ 6-pack of cans
    • Ithaca Flower Power - really outstanding IPA and deserves the reputation
    That being said I'm heading up to Vermont on Sunday and cannot wait to try more Heady, Lawsons and Hill Farmstead.
  30. MattXT

    MattXT Crusader (720) Nov 23, 2010 Virginia
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    Outside of Heady, my go to (I)IPAs are Gandhi, Larry, Julius, and Flower Power.
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  31. Joe_Grizzly

    Joe_Grizzly Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 New Hampshire
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    def agree with larry

    i've only had Eb 9-13-13

    comparing that to headdy is like

    askin someone to pick between drinking a strangers piss and fresh well water
  32. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Newburyport Green Head IPA is eerily reminiscent of Heady
  33. CSDaSmack

    CSDaSmack Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2012 Connecticut
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    Alot have been mentioned I was gonna toss out there (Julius, Ghandi), Sea Hag however is a fantastic IPA, often overshadowed by Ghandi's popularity IMO.

    Also, Fuzzy Baby Ducks is also fantastic, unfortunately it only lasts 1 week a year if that and is brewery only in growlers.
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  34. JTreehorn

    JTreehorn Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2013 Massachusetts

    I will second Wormtown's "Be Hoppy" and Trillium's "Fort Point", Maine Beer Co's "Lunch" & "Another One" , also a fan of Ithaca's "Flower Power" and Unita's "Hop Notch". Definitely check out Rising Tide's Calcutta Cutter which is just appearing in stores. Not sure if it's going to be a regular release but certainly worth grabbing.
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  35. ChrisChagnon

    ChrisChagnon Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2013 Connecticut
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    Passed on Lunch today $8.99 for a 16ish oz bottle (just outrageous), grabbed a 4pk of Ghandi Bot for 12.99 with tax. G-bot > most
  36. rdilauro

    rdilauro Crusader (753) Mar 8, 2010 Connecticut

    I've never had any of the Pliny's, but luckily I have had many Heady Toppers. (not via retail stores)
    Its very hard to try to match one of those against another beer, but I have a few that I do enjoy (while I do not have any Heady's)

    Ithaca - Flower Power
    Sixpoint - Resin
    Stone - Ruination

    And I am not concerned if those are IPAs, DIPAS, Imperial IPAs, but to me they have the hoppy power combine with proper balance to give you one hell of a beer
  37. bring

    bring Initiate (185) Aug 17, 2005 Massachusetts
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    Have to disagree with this.
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  38. yuppiescum

    yuppiescum Initiate (35) Jun 4, 2009 Massachusetts
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  39. WesFoxlove

    WesFoxlove Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2013 Massachusetts

    I know you're not going to find it in stores locally, and I know FFF and BA classifies it as an American Pale - But now that this topic has branches out a little, I think you definitely have to include 'Zombie Dust' in this hoppy "Next Best" conversation.

    As for some slightly more LOCAL options - I'm a huge fan of the Marshall Wharf canned offerings... Fresh 'Can't Dog' is awesome, but I think fresh 'Ace Hole' should definitely be on your list if you like Heady. It's NOT Heady, but if that's your thing (and why wouldn't it be) and you can get over the border into Maine, I'd say grab some fresh 'Ace Hole' cans. Tasty stuff.
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