Welcome to BeerAdvocate!

Looking to talk, rate or trade beer? Join today by creating your free account.

Dismiss Notice
Curious about recent updates to the site and app? Check the Announcements forum for updates.
Dismiss Notice
Love Belgian Beer?

Join us Sep 17 in Portland, Maine for Return of the Belgian Beer Fest, featuring hundreds of authentic Belgian beers and Belgian-inspired offerings.

Tickets + more: beeradvocate.com/belgian

Obnoxious lowball offers

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by TurdFurgison, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. TurdFurgison

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Posts:
    255
    Likes Received:
    501
    Location:
    Ohio
    It is with sadness and not anger that I apply fingers to keyboard. In the past week I've received 3 unsolicited trade offers so staggering in their lack of balance that I'm left nearly speechless.

    As an example, I was offered a can of Heady Topper for a Coffee BCBS. To be fair he mentioned having 2 Zombie Dusts too. Those 3 beers are much less than half the value of what I typically toss in as EXTRAs.

    If this is the new normal I'm done.
     
  2. lucas1801

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Posts:
    1,731
    Likes Received:
    2,135
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Read every post by themind he offered supplication for T-25. Well just anything from him it is comedy gold.
     
  3. InebriatedJoker

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Posts:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    10,602
    Location:
    Ohio
    Turd - It's not the way it used to be , Trying to "win" trades in the new thing ..
    I'm sticking with my core group of previous traders and not venturing into those waters anymore ..
    Heady is good but come on man, one can ? ,
    that's not even $4$ ..Shits crazy !
     
  4. FUNKPhD

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Posts:
    2,056
    Likes Received:
    1,966
    Location:
    Texas
    So, did you trade the BCBCS for the can of Heady?
     
  5. TurdFurgison

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Posts:
    255
    Likes Received:
    501
    Location:
    Ohio
    Well, YES but that's not the point!
     
  6. FUNKPhD

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Posts:
    2,056
    Likes Received:
    1,966
    Location:
    Texas
    Just going to say, I didn't much care for either, but that is pretty shitty. It was probably a re-trade HT, too.
     
  7. thegoon55

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2012
    Posts:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1,603
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Everyone loves themind
     
    Archemedies, Romulux, JulianB and 3 others like this.
  8. lucas1801

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Posts:
    1,731
    Likes Received:
    2,135
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Themind would have sent you an aged Pliny as he sys it is great at six months
     
    Archemedies and beercules101 like this.
  9. FUNKPhD

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Posts:
    2,056
    Likes Received:
    1,966
    Location:
    Texas
    I knew that name sounded familiar. That dood BM'd one day telling me to Google something for something. I wasn't sure what he was getting at. Stand up guy.
     
    pschul4, lucas1801 and Gosox8787 like this.
  10. Levitation

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Posts:
    1,229
    Likes Received:
    2,960
    Location:
    California
    i often wonder if he forgot to add a "less" to his username when he signed up.
     
  11. jp7161

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2011
    Posts:
    298
    Likes Received:
    367
    Location:
    California
    I had someone offer a Westy for my Partridge and he said that it was a fair trade.
     
  12. sandiego67

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2008
    Posts:
    999
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    Location:
    California
    Ok, I'll up it to 2 Westy's.
     
    lurchingbeast and jp7161 like this.
  13. jp7161

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2011
    Posts:
    298
    Likes Received:
    367
    Location:
    California
    Way more fair.
     
  14. flayedandskinned

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Posts:
    828
    Likes Received:
    516
    Location:
    California


    Agree to said trade and send an envelope with a small, slighty open ziploc full of baking soda with note readying "love always, Abdul" inside.
     
    corbenlee likes this.
  15. MordorMongo

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Posts:
    3,007
    Likes Received:
    7,859
    Damn and I thought the guy who told me he would give me FOUR Heady's for a Blabaer was a fluke. He did tell me he was willing to add......
     
  16. miketd

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    Posts:
    2,242
    Likes Received:
    2,776
    Location:
    Ohio
    Eh, sometimes people don't really know trade values and other times people are new and ignorant; it's not always some dude trying to get one over on you. Anyway, it's pretty easy to say "no thanks" and leave it at that.
     
    JxExM, brewbetter, cmannes and 3 others like this.
  17. aasher

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010
    Posts:
    3,862
    Likes Received:
    14,780
    Location:
    Indiana
    Heady Topper is the new M. It can get you whatever you want.
     
    biglobo8971 likes this.
  18. aasher

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010
    Posts:
    3,862
    Likes Received:
    14,780
    Location:
    Indiana
    Seriously though, people need to stop trading single bottles or cans if they come in four or six packs. That is some shit.
     
  19. thegoon55

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2012
    Posts:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1,603
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I thought 3000 was the new M...god this site is so confusing.
     
    ABisonEgo, pschul4, gpawned and 3 others like this.
  20. Hanzo

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Posts:
    4,795
    Likes Received:
    13,125
    Location:
    Virginia
    Offers like that are helpful, it tells you who never to trade with and who to ignore on this site.
     
    tut2528, cavedave, atone315 and 6 others like this.
  21. lucas1801

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Posts:
    1,731
    Likes Received:
    2,135
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Have you had Supplication, aged 15 months in Pinot Noir barrels, yumm!
     
  22. Johnnyramirez

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2012
    Posts:
    750
    Likes Received:
    797
    Location:
    California
    But his Pliny was NJ Pliny. Not regular Pliny. And his Supplication was aged in Pinot Noir barrels
     
    huadog, dman5400 and lucas1801 like this.
  23. thegoon55

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2012
    Posts:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1,603
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I'm actually considering trading with him. 6 month old Pliny doesn't sound that bad, I just hope I have "rare" enough beer too grace him with.
     
  24. TurdFurgison

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Posts:
    255
    Likes Received:
    501
    Location:
    Ohio
    I think that this is exactly what happened. But it still pinches my taint.

    The clueless are on the verge of outnumbering the clued. And once they tip the scales we'll have a hard time identifying the real evildoers.
     
  25. lucas1801

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Posts:
    1,731
    Likes Received:
    2,135
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Racer 5?
     
  26. thegoon55

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2012
    Posts:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1,603
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I can't even find that. :(
     
    lucas1801 likes this.
  27. MordorMongo

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Posts:
    3,007
    Likes Received:
    7,859
    Sadly I think that is exactly the case already. I still refuse to give up, but I now go WEEKS without even looking at ISO:FT and I used to not go hours without doing so.
     
  28. stxSS07

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2010
    Posts:
    1,311
    Likes Received:
    2,467
    Location:
    Illinois
    This. So much this.
     
  29. abecall98

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Posts:
    1,032
    Likes Received:
    1,330
    Location:
    California
    Of course it's a fair trade, you would be winning actually. Westy is rated better. #2012traderlogic
     
    huadog likes this.
  30. heatwaves

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Posts:
    723
    Likes Received:
    1,201
    Location:
    California
    Plus Westy's glass is of higher quality. And I won't even get into the huge discrepancy of bottle caps.
     
  31. Levitation

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Posts:
    1,229
    Likes Received:
    2,960
    Location:
    California
    just give up on trading... you know you want to... take a bite of this sweet, sweet apple...
     
  32. podunkparte

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Posts:
    863
    Likes Received:
    1,164
    Location:
    Washington
    And report straight to prison
     
  33. DaveHack

    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2011
    Posts:
    332
    Likes Received:
    464
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Imagine the trade value of Head(y) in prison!
     
  34. MarkIntihar

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2010
    Posts:
    2,508
    Likes Received:
    4,498
    Location:
    Michigan
    I would if I didn't so often find myself reading it for the lulz. Lots of good stuff in there. I even heard the Fantome of the Opera has returned.
     
  35. xnicknj

    Joined:
    May 25, 2009
    Posts:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1,018
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    i think im going to start typing out the entire label for all future trade threads

    "Brewed with basil, oregano, tomato and garlic. Beer so good it deserves a wine glass!"
     
    biglobo8971, jgluck, Duff27 and 2 others like this.
  36. FEUO

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Posts:
    1,450
    Likes Received:
    1,557
    Location:
    Ontario (Canada)
    Welcome to planet earth. Not sure where you were livin before but here its money fo nuthing and chicks fo free!
     
  37. mcintire78

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2006
    Posts:
    94
    Likes Received:
    45
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    What's sad is that he probably got something good (or something he considered good) off some other new trader for a single can and so now he thinks he's got the keys to the kingdom. Let's up the output already, Alchemist! STOP THE HEADY MADNESS.
     
  38. SpdKilz

    Beer Trader

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Posts:
    627
    Likes Received:
    2,132
    Location:
    Illinois
    I think I have traded with one new person over the past six months. Granted I have stopped trading quite a bit compared to a year ago. However, almost every box I do send out goes to past traders. Every time I would put up an ISO, I would get completely lopsided offers (not all the time mind you) or if I answered a FT, they would then do the ole' "well I had a few offers for what I originally asked for, will you sweeten the pot?" (that happened no less than three times when I was looking for Juicy).

    I've quickly learned to let the new hyped releases go (i.e. BA Abraxus, 1515, Cherry Rye, etc.) because it is too hard trying to keep up with the flavor of the month, especially when so many new people into beer hold them for a ransom. I know I'll eventually be able to try them most likely through tastings, so I'm not too worried.

    Cliff Notes: A lot of new traders suck and are trying to "win" at trading.
     
  39. crushedvol

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2008
    Posts:
    96
    Likes Received:
    620
    Location:
    Illinois
    I doubt it's a rash of new people trying to win trades, but more a result of a small community becoming a large community. For starters people are more willing to help and overlook faults of there neighbors (read small community) than strangers (read large community).

    Also the more people you have the more unintelligent people you have. The unfortunate thing is that's it's not an issue that can be solved. whining about hit won't help (in fact would likely have the opposite affect, as people worried about bad traders are less likely to be genrerous themselves) and dumb people are completely unaware of the fact they are dumb (makes me wonder about myself)


    Cliff notes:
    Can't be fixed, so instead of getting mad about it...have a beer.
     
  40. Johnnyramirez

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2012
    Posts:
    750
    Likes Received:
    797
    Location:
    California
    If it is a small community becoming a large community, at what point am I, and any other good noob trader, accepted into the small community? Do I need a set # of trades before some people don't immediately assume I'm trying to win trades? Or a set period of time on the site? I know there's alot of people that try winning trades, and I'm sure it's worse than before (its always worse than before, even if it really isn't), but for the noob traders that aren't trying to win, that let the hard to find beer they grab go $4$ for something they really want to try and try to hook up their box with good locals as extras, how do we get into the "small" community so we're not lumped in with the noobs that wanna win trades by all the older members
     
    JulianB likes this.
  • About Us

    Your go-to website for beer (since 1996), publishers of BeerAdvocate magazine (since 2006) and hosts of world-class beer events (since 2003). Respect Beer.
  • Return of the Belgian Beer Fest

    BeerAdvocate Brings its All-Belgian Fest to Portland, Maine on September 17, 2016. Tickets are on sale now.

    Learn More
  • Get the Mag

    Become a BeerAdvocate magazine print subscriber today.

    Subscribe