Overused terms/words in craft beer

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  1. Hanglow

    Hanglow Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland

    When did you drink it at first? I believe it started to get dumbed down in the late 70s and by the 80s it was pretty crap. By the time Melanie Sykes started advertising it nationwide in the mid 90s it had reached its present level of awfulness. I suppose if you had it then - which is when I first had it - it was different enough to mass produced lagers that it might seem good
  2. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    I'll add one more: <beer> is "drinking beautifully" or " drinking great right now'. Just say it tasted great.
  3. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    The one that makes me laugh is all the BA's that say a brewery makes solid beer (I am sometimes guilty too). All I can think is the Coors frost brewed. I do not like beer ice cubes.
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  4. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Oh wow, nevermind then lol I first had it in maybe 2004? And it tasted creamy and sweet with honey back then. Now it tastes like band-aid with a bubblegum aftertaste. It smells good though. Anyway, I appreciate your perspective. Perhaps when I had it the first time it was just as bad but my taste buds were not as sharply developed for beer ...
  5. Lupin

    Lupin Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2006 Connecticut

    I'm getting sick of hearing about people "dialing in" a recipe. There have to be other types of controls on brewing equipment other than dials.
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  6. Fargrow

    Fargrow Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Michigan


    You don't have to say it. If you're talking about quality, value, or describing the way you sense a beer, it couldn't not be your opinion. Don't be scared, it's okay to have those here.
  7. Justinsosmart

    Justinsosmart Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 California

  8. Mike_Aguirre

    Mike_Aguirre Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 Mexico

    Once a sommelier told me that you can find like 200 flavors in beer, and told me "you´re lucky if you can find 10" then I replied "You´re lying if you can find 200". I think there are limited notes in beer and that´s why we all describe them the same way, that combined on our limited food reference to compare. Here in this forum I described coriander seed tasted like artificial orange flavor candy. And that´s how I´ve seen sommeliers and cicerones describing flavors to sound more "profesional" but if they say it´s "citrus, orange, orange peel, orange candy, orange syrup" that´s kind of the same flavor, but they found 5 instead of 1, so I think that´s why we overuse terms, we don´t care to sound like that, just tell what it tastes like for our palate. Cheers!
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  9. wrw5031

    wrw5031 Initiate (0) Dec 21, 2011 Georgia

    I'm shocked I got all the way here and no one has said "Meh". I swear thats like 90% of reviews on apps like Untappd
  10. CMB2012

    CMB2012 Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2008 Colorado

    "The best" and "your favorite." But I work in the industry so the argument is one sided. Please stop asking us what is the "best" or our "favorite?" Do you see how silly such questions are?
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  11. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,325) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Get a Cave Creek Chili Beer... might change your worldview on drainpour :slight_smile: But I understand what you're saying, seems to be an awful lot of beer-dumping from some reviews I've seen.
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  12. Jmorey

    Jmorey Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Michigan

    There are those rare beers that probably truly are destined for the drain (never had that cave creek, lucked out and never bought a voodoo maple bacon) but yeah, from people's comments on here, reviews, seems like a LOT of decent beer going to the crocodiles.

    It would have to be an utterly horrible beer for me to pour my hard earned money down the drain. I drink beer because i love it, the taste, etc. but also because it is ALCOHOL. If it's THAT bad, chug-a-lug and move on to something better.
  13. Pdemaras

    Pdemaras Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2015 Florida

    While not referred to with respect to craft beer, this word just pisses me off. By definition, any domestic beer is one made within the country it is being served. I spoke with a local guy yesterday at another bar who said he wouldn't come to our place because we don't have "domestic" beer. Sure, it has always been used to describe American piss water, but the fact that it is a misused term just drives me nuts.
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  14. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky

  15. harsley

    harsley Savant (1,249) Jun 16, 2005 Massachusetts


  16. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Again, I ask: what are everyone's suggested alternatives? It's not that I disagree some terms are overused (synonym: hackneyed), but, really, what should be used instead?

    Don't get me wrong, there are descriptors that make my skin crawl, but mostly because they're either a) euphonically bereft (they sound dumb. Sorry, all this talk of overused words has me desperately searching for new ways of saying the same old thing) or b) they represent sentiment I can't abide (i.e., "tradebait").

    Anyway, I'll start a list...

    Dank: Green? Pungent?
    Complex: Layered? "I taste a lot of flavors in this beer"?
    Balanced: "No one flavor dominates"? "The contrasting flavors in this beer, such as bitter hops and sweet malt, work well together"?
    Drinkable: "I could drink this very quickly"?
    Crushable: "This was easy to drink, and I'd readily drink several more"?
    Sessionable: "If you wanted to drink several of these and not be drunk, you could do it"?
    Overrated: "The scores this beer receives are not comensurate with its qualities, and I think the difficulty in obtaining it may contribute to such inflated scores"?

    You see, it's not so easy with some of these...
  17. SveNss0N

    SveNss0N Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2014 Massachusetts

  18. mynie

    mynie Grand Pooh-Bah (3,111) Jun 22, 2004 Maryland

    "Clusterful," "splunge," "Brayden," "water."
  19. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,036) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    I'm so sorry. I didn't know.
    The IPA I had last night had so many floaties in it... sucks for me 'cause I hate beer with adjuncts.
    There - we're at 100% now.

    (we can also add "floaties" to this list)
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  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,036) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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  21. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,036) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Now that the cat's out of the bag, we must all realize that we hate everything that everyone says. We only come here out of hatred and self-loathing (and to pass the time at work).
  22. Plower

    Plower Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2014 Texas

    I'm kind of tired of people using terms like "juicy" for hops. You want juicy? Try a Texas Red Grapefruit instead. Then there's people using terms like "funky" every time Brett is mentioned as if the product is spoiled. I do not believe these people are for real but trying to troll the forums of Beeradvocate.
  23. OneDropSoup

    OneDropSoup Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2008 Pennsylvania

    This one definitely for me. "Oh, so that IPA tastes like banana & coconut? Great!"
  24. doowhat

    doowhat Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2009 Arkansas

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  25. 31Sam13

    31Sam13 Initiate (0) Sep 29, 2014 New Hampshire

    Yes, definitely depending on how it's used...me too...
  26. LittleDog

    LittleDog Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2014 Texas

    If you have a cat and you whiff on some Simcoe hops (and a few others) you get the distinct CAT pee. Trust me, with a newborn son, a geriatric dog, and a healthy drinking habit, I know that cat whiz has a distinct aroma from other pee or ammonia.
  27. LittleDog

    LittleDog Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2014 Texas

    Board Meeting Brown wowed me. It was amazing. I don't think those were the words I used at the time, but they fit.

    I can see the problem with "best." However, I like all beers. So, I'm at a new place, with 10 minutes and $10 to waste and I don't know any (or enough) of your beer to choose.

    What's your favorite?
    (If I get lucky, and only rarely do) X
    Pint of X please.

    No issue. I always turn down the tiny "tastes." Forget it. I'll take my chances. I don't recall regretting it enough to care.
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  28. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,239) Nov 20, 2005 England

    It was a first class example of its type , a session bitter beer.Then Whitbread wanted it in their pubs. The end result was a final product totally unlike the original Boddy's.One thing which I was told by somebody involved was that they used a special malt , only available in small quantities and the bean counters worked round this by substituting basic pale malt. Then they drastically cut the hopping. Finally they shoved it in cans with the abominable nitro thing. Yuk.
  29. HeislerGold

    HeislerGold Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Michigan

    There's nothing wrong with being impressed by a beer. That pleasant surprise is always a great feeling when trying a new brew. My issue is with people who place unreasonable expectations on subtle styles of beer not designed to meet them.
  30. GreatHopForward

    GreatHopForward Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2015 China

    I interpret it as the smell of a damp basement.
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  31. ZombieDusted2049

    ZombieDusted2049 Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2014 Illinois

    IMO and IMHO when talking about anything on a forum
  32. FFreak

    FFreak Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    I like "dank". It describes a flavor that goes beyond pine and resin, approaching cannabis, sinsemilla, skunk weed, etc. Citra hops can be 'tropical' and 'dank' at the same time. I can't think of a more appropriate word for that taste.
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  33. beergrrl

    beergrrl Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    cacophony of flavor.
  34. beergrrl

    beergrrl Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    And Xanadu. Imagine a Dank Xanadu Glockenspiel fresh offering. Even at a great price point, I'd avoid that drain pour.
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  35. RobinLee

    RobinLee Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2012 Wisconsin

    Overrated tasted like pineapples to me. Not like eating one, mind you, just a subtle cameo behind the typical orangey/lemony hops.
  36. kansascobleigh

    kansascobleigh Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2013 Wisconsin

    I find myself saying "high(ly/est) rated" a lot to my friends who are just getting into quality or "craft" beer. I also do this for breweries when I am attempting to explain why I drive 4-6 hours/way on a weekend to visit a place for 3-4 hours...
  37. nhindian

    nhindian Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2010 Pennsylvania

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  38. Archbis_Hops

    Archbis_Hops Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2015 New Jersey

  39. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,843) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
    Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    I feel your pain! With the drought in California the environmentally responsible BA is garden pouring.
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  40. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2012 England

    True to style
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