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Parabola '13 or Sucaba '13?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by black13, Apr 27, 2013.

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  1. black13

    black13 Disciple (306) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon
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    I just had my first bottle of Parabola 13' and it takes like a BA barleywine to me. Has anyone else had this same finding? Maybe I got a bottle of Sucaba with a Parabola label?
  2. BeastLU

    BeastLU Disciple (326) Dec 20, 2012 Virginia

    What? They look totally different. Were you bottle swiggin?
  3. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    was the color not pitch black?
  4. black13

    black13 Disciple (306) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon
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    No swiggin here. Now that I look at it, it looks more like Sucaba than Parabola. It's dark brown rather than dark black.
  5. BeastLU

    BeastLU Disciple (326) Dec 20, 2012 Virginia

    This is Sucaba...

    Light head is a dead give away. And the dark counter makes it look darker than it is.
  6. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,431) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    First. Why do you put the ' after the 13? You realize that the ' is short for 2000 right? Just saying.
    Second. I don't think Parabola '13 has reached Seattle yet, but I simply can't imagine confusing Parabola and §ucaba. They are, like, totally different beers. I guess I'll have to wait til I get a bottle though...
  7. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Defender (614) Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    BCBS '11 or KH '11?
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  8. JOrtt

    JOrtt Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 North Carolina
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    Parabola has not been distributed outside the state yet. The only way they have tried this is if he picked up a trade from someone.
  9. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    Pictures... Of the bottle and the beer poured in the glass. This wouldn't make much sense, but who knows, mistakes happen. Doubt it's '13 Sucaba though, since that isn't out.
  10. black13

    black13 Disciple (306) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Parabola 2013 is all over Portland right now. I do have a picture of the beer in the glass, and when I figure out how to post a picture from my phone I'll do it. I just compared another bottle I got from the same batch of Parabola 2013 with a 2011 Abacus and 2011 Parabola. The 2013 Parabola is darker than the 2011 Abacus but lighter than the 2011 Parabola. Who knows what I was drinking, but it wasn't anything like the first three releases of Parabola.
  11. JOrtt

    JOrtt Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 North Carolina
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    This years batch was barrelled in different barrels than previous years, maybe that's what you're getting in the flavor profile, and I did doubt you on availability. It was released on the 15th of April, and the local stores around the brewery have just gotten it Wed the 24th (BevMo). Thats why I doubted it was in Portland.
  12. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Aspirant (273) Sep 24, 2010 Nebraska
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    Anyone else getting a barleywine flavor?
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  13. watsonmd

    watsonmd Initiate (0) May 16, 2009 Georgia

    the '15 is much better.... let it age though...
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  14. MontereyBay831

    MontereyBay831 Initiate (135) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    It was a parabacaba... Parabola mixed with sucaba mixed with a chupacabra
  15. DerekMorgan

    DerekMorgan Disciple (372) Jan 15, 2013 Massachusetts
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    2013 Sucaba is out here in bottles and had it in a couple bars, Parabola hasn't made its way out to MA yet. And for the record, 2013 Sucaba is BOMBBB
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  16. HKUSPC40

    HKUSPC40 Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2012 Washington

    Yeah it's not in Seattle yet. Any day now. I believe the Firestone guy is gonna be at TW Bellevue tomorrow (4/27).
  17. honkduh

    honkduh Aspirant (263) Jun 2, 2011 Oregon
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    Portland got it on the 23rd

    @TheBeermongers: @FirestoneWalker Parabola 2013 bottles are IN! Also Base Camp Rye Pils & Klamath Basin Lone Pine DIPA #pdxbeer
  18. Stinger80OH

    Stinger80OH Crusader (740) Nov 11, 2011 Ohio
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  19. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Aspirant (273) Sep 24, 2010 Nebraska
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    Stuff is in CO. Opened one last night and I get zero barleywine. Must be missing something.
  20. JOrtt

    JOrtt Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 North Carolina
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    Glad you have it...buy all you can.
  21. MrDave

    MrDave Devotee (466) Jan 23, 2013 California
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    Cracked a bottle last night. I'm with you this is nothing like Parabola of the past and more like a barleywine. Unfortunately, I wish it tasted more like Sucaba. What I got was closer to Guinness and Welch's. This was weirdly thin, kinda tart, and had a very unpleasant cheap-red-wine-taste in finish. Far from the thick, smooth, rich, well-balanced beer of 2010 or 20011 (I didn't get any of last years). Really bummed on this, but glad to hear someone else noticed something is amiss...
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  22. JGam115

    JGam115 Disciple (359) Apr 8, 2013 New York
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    Reading the thread, I'm slightly concerned. I had a bottle of '12 Parabola in January which was a pitch black, definitely unmistakable stout-style brew. I understand that the barrels changed, but how a stout can be mistaken for a barleywine - to me - is insane. I'm hoping for my sake there were a few faulty tagged bottles that got out (which in itself is shocking). Transit or shelf storage has always been a concern of mine as well, so maybe a handful of bottles spoiled?

    They haven't hit NYC yet, but I'm fixing to pick up 2-3 bottles so I can crack one now and cellar the others.
  23. MrDave

    MrDave Devotee (466) Jan 23, 2013 California
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    I'm hoping you're right because I have 3 of these in the cellar. A buddy of mine had it on tap side by side with the 12 and said the 13 was thicker, chewier, and richer (and simply better). That's not what was in the bottle I opened.
  24. Rainier

    Rainier Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 California

    i think it's the barrel aged tastes that makes both beers taste similar. Parabola has more hop bitterness in it.
  25. BrettHead

    BrettHead Devotee (479) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska


    Crazy how I drank one last week then :wink:
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  26. jageraholic

    jageraholic Disciple (394) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Looking at Untappd, all the pictures look very stoutish and descriptions sounds very much like a BA imperial Stout. Not reading anything about being barleywine tastes except for one that says a faint tart cherry taste.
  27. Highbrow

    Highbrow Devotee (460) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    unless bottled a distance back, i'd have to guess released April 15 & *spoiled* with-in 2 weeks only sounds plausible if it sat on a broken down truck in the Mojave ( randomly chosen location ) during transit.
    with this being sort of a "second" - curious and never really paid attention - does anyone know if Parabola is bottled in batches or 1 large vatting & a single bottling run?
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  28. bramsdell

    bramsdell Aspirant (278) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    Have you contacted FW yet?
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  29. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    How did 2 bottles of '13 Sucaba make it into my beer closet? A miracle!
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  30. BourbonBarrelBeerBelly

    BourbonBarrelBeerBelly Initiate (71) Feb 13, 2013 Washington
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    Pretty sure I know a place that got it today! Check...

    Chuck's on 85th
    Big Star Beer Mart
    Central Market
    The Beer Authority
    Special Brews
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  31. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Aspirant (245) Jul 12, 2012 California

    Wow. Experiences really vary huh. I found this to be my favorite Para to date. Got a bunch of them.
  32. black13

    black13 Disciple (306) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon
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    I have. They told me there is no way it is a bottling error. I sent them a picture of the beer in a glass. Waiting to see what they have to say.
  33. BrownAleMale

    BrownAleMale Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2011 Wisconsin
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    Not true, one of my bottle shop had it on Saturday
  34. dianimal

    dianimal Initiate (161) Apr 18, 2012 California

    maybe someone put a bottle of Sucaba in the Parabola box? Did you open the box before you got it home?
  35. Highbrow

    Highbrow Devotee (460) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    when can we see the picture? maybe try copying it & pasting it directly into a post here.
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  36. JOrtt

    JOrtt Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 North Carolina
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    I know that...read the other posts
  37. henskejk

    henskejk Aspirant (244) Feb 10, 2011 California

    I had it on tap at the Barrelworks on release day and it was delicious and did not taste like a barleywine. Haven't had any of my bottles yet, but hope nothing went wrong with the bottling as I have picked up quite a few.
  38. QuadrantThree

    QuadrantThree Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2011 California
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    just opened a 13. it does have a bit of a barleywine nose and a bitter hop after taste/sourness, as well as some heat. nothing like any other vintage ive had. this makes me sad.
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  39. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Meyvn (1,023) Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    Lol, I thought this was a 'which is better' thread. I came here to say, Sucaba over Parabola, every vintage, every time.
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  40. MrDave

    MrDave Devotee (466) Jan 23, 2013 California
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    Did you notice the body to be thinner than in previous releases too? I'm still hoping we were the unlucky few that somehow got off-bottles. Otherwise, the three in the cellar are going to be trading bricks.
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