Peruvian taste

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  1. beerexplorer1973

    beerexplorer1973 Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2011 Wisconsin

    I agree, I don't think it's infection.
  2. fishtremble

    fishtremble Initiate (185) Jan 18, 2010 Michigan
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    Does this beer contain lactose? Reading through this it sounds a lot like the gripes people have from poorly stored Short's Cup of Joes. I have made the mistake of leaving some of my Cup of Joes outside the fridge for too long of a period and when the lactose started to go bad that was exactly the flavor that came forth was a sour taste before I would get the true taste of the beer. Have never had PM so was just curious if it had lactose and if this could be a contributing factor.
  3. polisanl

    polisanl Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2010 Florida
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    Please, let me know what CW replies. Just traded for a 4 pack of PM....just had one and you can add me the infected list. Had PM last year and no issues. Not sure what's up.
  4. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,719) Nov 16, 2009 California
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    Well I appreciate this thread as I just got one PM via my RS guy in MI. I guess I am drinking it sooner than I though. The suspense of a sour PM is killing me.

  5. incutrav

    incutrav Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2007 Minnesota

    They posted on FB that they are aware of the 'undesirable flavor' issue and are in the process of figuring out a voluntary recall.
  6. atone315

    atone315 Savant (971) Oct 8, 2008 Wisconsin
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    This was in reply to my post on their wall. It appears I finally got their attention via FB-

    Nick Uremovich
    Sent an email, didn't get a response....there is a thread started on BeerAdvocate, and I am wondering this also....What is up with the sour/tart note found in this year's Peruvian Morning? I bought close to a case this year, drank about half of it already, and I bet about 40% of them had this awful taste. The ones that did not have the taste, were Awesome though!!!!
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  7. mtrutlin

    mtrutlin Initiate (67) Apr 4, 2012 South Carolina
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    This was just posted on Central Waters' facebook page 30 minutes ago:

    We have received a few comments about off flavors in this years Peruvian Morning. In our own tests at the brewery, we have seen some undesirable flavors as well. We are aware of the situation, and are currently investigating it. In the meantime, we are currently working out the logistics of a voluntary recall for those who feel they would like to do so. We stand behind the quality of our beers and will do what we can to make this right by everyone. Stay tuned for details as we work out them out, and thank you for your patience and understanding
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  8. bound4er

    bound4er Champion (821) Jul 4, 2007 Wisconsin

    I must have been lucky - I went through a case this year and every bottle was fantastic.
  9. averagejake872

    averagejake872 Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2011 Illinois

    Well, I'm glad to hear that I'm not just crazy...
  10. The22Lou

    The22Lou Aspirant (201) Jun 1, 2011 Oregon
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    Just tried my first 2012 and I agree with the sour. So are some of them not sour and some are? The local liquor store i got it from only sells them at room temp, if that has something to do with it like fishtremble suggested
  11. atone315

    atone315 Savant (971) Oct 8, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Correct, there are both....the PM that don't have the tart note are Excellent!!!
  12. PeteOrPierre

    PeteOrPierre Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012

    Glad someone else experienced this. I love Central Waters and was very unpleasently suprised when I bought a 4 Pack of PM a couple months ago. Tasted unbelievably tart/bitter, I was convinced it was a bad batch, but wasn't sure how likely that was.
  13. jgagne

    jgagne Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 Kentucky
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    Yeah just tasted a bottle a couple days ago and got a sour flavor. I am definitely going to seek it out again, hopefully i will get a normal bottle.
  14. The22Lou

    The22Lou Aspirant (201) Jun 1, 2011 Oregon
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    My sour pack (4/4 were sour) was bottled in January. Maybe that can help identify a bad pack vs a good one with some more input? Or are they all bottled in Jan?
  15. nickapalooza86

    nickapalooza86 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2010 Wisconsin

    I am pretty sure they are all January. I originally posted all mine have been fine but I just grabbed 3 more four packs and they have been a bit off so far.
  16. Mscarpen

    Mscarpen Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2011 Tennessee
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    Got some from brewery and others from Racine, Chicago, and Milwaukee. All were just fine.
  17. ncketchum

    ncketchum Devotee (422) Apr 30, 2006 Wisconsin
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    I've had two 4-packs, all were fine
  18. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    Had 1 4 pk this year, it was fine. Purchased at Tenuta's in Kenosha.
  19. strohme2

    strohme2 Crusader (744) Nov 3, 2007 Michigan
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    Im drinking one right now that I received as an extra. It's not bad but reading the reviews was expecting something else. Definite tartness, the bourbon still comes through. I'll finish it and soldier on.
  20. hardy008

    hardy008 Poo-Bah (1,969) Jan 12, 2008 Minnesota

    I noticed a little tartness, but it wasn't too bad. I still enjoyed the beer.
  21. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (3,694) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Dammit. Popped one open last night & there was the first stirrings of weirdness. Far under the surface, but starting to really suppress the bourbon profile.
  22. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Aspirant (212) Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina
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    I've had 2 2012 PMs, and didn't care for either of them. Good to know that there could be an issue with these beers, and that they aren't normally this bad. I love the other CW barrel aged beers.

    *to elaborate on what I didn't like, it tasted like old water down coffee with a little tartness, and zero barrel presence.
  23. Hophead717

    Hophead717 Zealot (572) Oct 21, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Just cracked open my first (and only) PM. It's from January 2012. It's tart and not very good. The nose is fantastic--no hints of problems there--but the taste is impossible to ignore.

    Very disappointing. I was really looking forward to trying this beer.
  24. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    I've had plenty that have been fine, however, reading this thread made me paranoid to pick up any more bottles of it... and of course after buying some yesterday, the one I just cracked open is sour/tart. Damn..
  25. Sender

    Sender Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Minnesota

    Slightly tart flavor in the bottle I opened tonight.
  26. azdback

    azdback Defender (616) Apr 2, 2004 Arizona
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    I received one as an extra last week and it was bottled February of '12. Not good. Very tart/sour. Red Stag and an average stout in my opinion.
  27. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    it has definitely started to sour, really bummed about that.
  28. Stairsvictim

    Stairsvictim Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2005 New Jersey

    Picked up a couple bottles brewed in January.
    Sour :slight_frown:
  29. bitterbeerguy

    bitterbeerguy Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Minnesota

    Crazy- I just had my first peruvian morning yesterday and felt the same way. Literally a sour mess. I tried everything; letting it sit, making some MORE cold, etc, and the stuff tasted horrible. I have another bottle, but if it was like the first one, it might find its way down the drain. I was shocked since the BBBW and BBBS are in my top 10 brews ever brewed...
  30. atone315

    atone315 Savant (971) Oct 8, 2008 Wisconsin
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    I don't think that there are any more good ones out there. This was all bottled at the same time, then distro'd. I feel that something was in the brew that went bad with time and now everyone is tasting it....too bad cause these were awesome fresh.
  31. AndresR

    AndresR Aspirant (237) Jul 19, 2009 California
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    I cracked open a CW bourbon cherry stout a few days ago, the latest release. It had the similar off taste as the PM. Anyone else experience this as well?
  32. bfg75

    bfg75 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2011 Washington
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    I have a bottle in my fridge from the most recent release...Heard rumors that it may be infected (and there may be a recall?). Probably will just crack it and drink it this week since I can't exactly return it haha.
  33. SourNotes

    SourNotes Initiate (126) Nov 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    nobody has had me
  34. djmichaelk

    djmichaelk Zealot (560) Jul 6, 2008 Florida
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    Ohhhhh, that's not what I've heard... </dirty></highschool>

    Two 4-packs for me, hoping they don't all turn out this way. The one I drank tonight definitely did. Awful.
  35. AutumnBeerLove

    AutumnBeerLove Aspirant (242) Oct 16, 2010 Vermont
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    Got a 4 pack in a trade, and a bottle I opened did have a tart taste to it. But it was my first and only PM. Shame. Guess I'll hold on to the last 3 bottles to see what unfolds.
  36. muletrane

    muletrane Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2006 Pennsylvania

    This is a real shame! My local bottle shop has a ton of this on the shelf too. I guess I'll pass.
  37. atone315

    atone315 Savant (971) Oct 8, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Hey guys, I traded 4 or 5 4pks of PM in the last few weeks and can't remember to whom. If I traded one to you, hit me up and we can work out some sort of replacement as it looks like all of the PM has gone bad....
  38. bfg75

    bfg75 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2011 Washington
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    Opened mine and yep, it was infected :-( Still got the coffee but the sourness kinda wiped out everything else.
  39. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    I opened one last night that seemed fine, but finished slightly with a bit of tart/sourness. Have two bottles left, one of my more favorite locals, but guess I won't buy anymore until next year.. Sad!
  40. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Had a bottle last night. No signs of infection, could taste the bourbon coffee, stout, etc...
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