Pet Peeves of Reviews

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by CloudStrife, Feb 14, 2013.

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  1. coreyfmcdonald

    coreyfmcdonald Savant (953) Nov 13, 2008 Georgia
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    I hate when not one word of the review describes the beer appearance, smell, flavor, or mouthfeel whatsoever.
  2. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,296) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    This is done to give a description of the specific glass used for drinking. Not all snifters/goblets/pint glasses are created equal - slightly different sizes, angles, etc. I think it is just another descriptor to help illustrate the beer and how it is being tasted, along with freshness (age), keg vs. bottle vs. cask, temperature, and others.
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  3. Premo88

    Premo88 Meyvn (1,445) Jun 6, 2010 Texas

    No doubt ... and in general, I appreciate everybody's attempt to give a beer a full review.

    While I might have preferences, the only thing I completely disregard are the quick scores (excepts those by the Bros). I don't mean to rip anybody for doing a quick score, but for my own learning purposes, I start with the Bros' reviews, go to the expert reviewers' then look at other full reviews -- I outright ignore the quick scores.

    Sometimes it can be a lot to read, but the reviews on BA are helping me a ton.
  4. freeride

    freeride Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2012 Illinois
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    Just a newbie here and I clearly don't know as much as everyone else.

    That said, it strikes me as odd that there's not a standard "review" format. I've been to a number of beer festivals and events whereby there is a standard approach to scoring and rating a beer. As a leader in the industry, it would be interesting for BeerAdvocate to sort of..."define" the approach for rating beers. You guys clearly have a leg up on everyone else and can sort of blaze your own path to a standard way to rate beers.

    The other thing is, and I don't know how feasible it would be, but it would be good to know which ratings were by certified beer tasters vs. joe taster. I am sure this is a data model change as it would probably have to be associated to user profiles, so I don't know how feasible this is. Just an interesting thought!

    Hope none of this comes off as accusatory, but just some thoughts from a casual observer.
  5. WBD

    WBD Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2013 South Carolina

    I want a review from the gut. Not going through ten different tones,color,grass flavor,etc to the etc.

    Give me the taste from the gut. I can handle the truth. Sit with the ball and change and tell me you taste good stuff.

    Shit yeah... Good stuff.

    Stop punching the ticket of beers you think are cool. Drink beers that taste cool.

    Grab your ball ladies and gents.

    Let's take a ride.
  6. WBD

    WBD Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2013 South Carolina

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  7. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Devotee (463) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    One thing that I find to be really goofy is when someone rates the beer with say 4 4.25 4.5 and 4 and then rates it overall a 4. I understand if the taste is the lowest but when the overall is lower than individual ratings for each category than I don't get it. I have seen a couple times where this has happened.
  8. WBD

    WBD Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2013 South Carolina

    There lies the problem. 4.5 or 4 whatever. What does it really mean?

    Let me lie this down.

    You are home or at your fav bar getting ready for a great beer. Yeah. Fist bumps with your dogs. Let's get down let's get down.

    You take a sip. Dang. I feel lemon with a taste off.........stop it right gosh darn right now.

    Enjoy it do not rank it.

    My work is done.
  9. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Site Editor (6,938) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    In the overall category I also include things like the drinkability so while a beer might have a great flavor and aroma, it might be so intense that it is tough to drink or the alcohol might not be as well hidden as I want therefore I might not have the same value as the other categories.
  10. slander

    slander Site Editor (2,096) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    Beerflys that talk about everything but the beer...
  11. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Devotee (463) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    OK, thanks for the clarification there. That makes sense.
  12. tectactoe

    tectactoe Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2012 Michigan

    Along with this, I also personally factor in value (is the beer worth the price?) to the overall category as well.
  13. smokinyodas

    smokinyodas Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2012 Florida

    Roasted horse blankets and the bottom of an old shoe, aged in Paris. :wink:
    This could not be further from the truth. Short of expert super tasters that train their nose and taste buds with years of practice, I'd say they are trying to impress us. Most people can distinguish thousands of smells but can usually only name a handful at a time when presented with many aromas. Personally for me I enjoy a simple tasting beer that works well with foods, but that generally cuts down on the complex reviews and horse blankets...
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  14. woosterbill

    woosterbill Poo-Bah (2,616) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    A couple others have already given good specific reasons, but I would just point out that there would be no purpose whatsoever to the presence of an Overall score if it were supposed to be an average of the other components, since all five categories get averaged anyway.

    Use Overall to gauge your personal opinion of the beer as a whole, using whatever additional (in)tangible factors as matter to you beyond the A/S/T/M categories that are given their own place. Whether it's value, drinkability, availability, the personality of the brewer, a childhood memory it brings to mind, or the fact that the label happens to be your favorite color. Go nuts.
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  15. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Devotee (463) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    OK, I see. I must just be out of my mind, but I generally consider how the beer tastes to be pretty much the most important part of the equation. Heck, maybe that is just because I like the beers from that place in Belg that don't even have a label on them. But I get it.

    Come to think of it, I guess if Angelina served me a Bud naked, I would think it was pretty good. Got it.
  16. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,441) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    People who obviously don't read style guidelines before reviewing a beer. How many times have we seen Berliners reviewed as too tart, IIPA reviewed as too unbalanced and/or bitter, rauchbiers that are too smoky tasting.

    As someone already said though, pretty easy to go to the next review. I will add it also is pretty easy to find those reviewers who are careful, knowledgeable, readable, and have a palate similar to your own.
  17. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    God damn, I love logic.
  18. ricchezza

    ricchezza Aspirant (251) Nov 2, 2005 Massachusetts

    I personally like something that's easy to read. Long paragraphs that are difficult to browse for specific info is something I often tend to skip over. I look at reviews quickly in the store if I see something new and can't decide if I want to chance it or grab a trusty stand-by instead.
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