Pick 10 breweries who should have exclusive rights to brew NE IPAs

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by StoutSnob40, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    NE IPAs are everywhere now. Everyone brews them and most of them are completely terrible. Name 10 breweries who should have exclusive brewing priviledges for this style.

    I’ll start, in no particular order.

    1. Tree House
    2. Hill Farmstead
    3. The Veil
    4. Bissel Brothers
    5. Tired Hands
    6. Trillium
    7. Aslin
    8. Monkish
    9. Other Half
    10. The Alchemist
     
  2. Junior

    Junior Aspirant (293) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    There are a lot of terrible NEIPAs. There are also a lot of therrible West Coast IPAs. Terrible stouts, terrible lagers, terrible porters, etc.

    Are you going to make beers from each of these breweries at my local bottle shop and/or tap room? If not, I’ll stick with Old Nation which makes some outstanding NEIPAs and a few other locals that make some terrific beer.
     
  3. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    You’re no fun..
     
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  4. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Poo-Bah (1,622) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois

    Hopefully, this thread turns into a pissing contest between people who love NE IPAs and people who hate NE IPAs.

    Never mind, that is 100% what is going to happen in this thread.
     
  5. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Can’t we just have fun with it? I mean, who doesn’t love a good list?

    No pissing allowed. If you don’t like NE IPAs, you don’t have to participate.
     
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  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,188) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    Odd13 and Weldwerks should be in this conversation. Both breweries are on par with tree house and trillium.
     
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  7. Junior

    Junior Aspirant (293) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    Or maybe a debate about what really makes a NEIPA a NEIPA.
     
  8. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Poo-Bah (1,622) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois

    I love NE IPAs. It just happens in every thread on the subject.

    Fuck it, I'll play.

    1) Tree House
    2) Monkish
    3) Narrow Gauge
    4) Bearded Iris
    5) Weldwerks
    6) Corridor
    7) Old Nation
    8) the Veil
    9) Equilibrium
    10) Hill Farmstead
     
  9. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (2,338) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Did you mean to say doesn't? because if you did, what you typed is exactly correct.
     
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  10. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Poo-Bah (1,622) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois

    First sentence was sarcastic. Second sentence was honest.
     
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  11. Junior

    Junior Aspirant (293) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    I've had some great NEIPA's but not from 10 different breweries.
     
  12. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Weldwerks is pretty bomb.. they’d definitely be in the conversation. On par with Tree House might be a stretch, though.
     
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  13. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Devotee (410) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey

    10 is a bit much, would have preferred top 3 to make it more intense and frankly easier to participate in.
     
  14. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Let’s hear your top 3.
     
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  15. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (422) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts

    Love the concept -- sort of a Trappist Ale thing for NEIPAs. Excellent suggestions so far -- these guys have got to be on the list.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. thebeers

    thebeers Poo-Bah (1,983) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Haven't had all of the breweries the OP mentioned, but I'd add SingleCut to the list. Kane is quality, too.
     
  17. Zaphog

    Zaphog Poo-Bah (2,211) Sep 23, 2011 Michigan

    My list would be very similar. I'd like to put Old Nation and Brew Gentleman in there but I'm having a hard time deciding who I'd remove...
     
  18. islay

    islay Initiate (185) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    Has Toppling Goliath ever brewed an NEIPA? @Junior
     
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  19. MNAle

    MNAle Savant (921) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Boston Beer Company
    Sierra Nevada
     
  20. B-Stad

    B-Stad Initiate (0) May 16, 2015 Minnesota

    TG doesn't call it NEIPA, but Pseudo Sue and all subsequent offerings and renditions of Sue are essentially NEIPAs: Hazy, fruity, juicy, with a smooth/creamy mouthfeel.
     
  21. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    That’s not 10.

    And you’re wrong. But you knew that..
     
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  22. Junior

    Junior Aspirant (293) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    I've only had Pseudo Sue once and nothing else from TG. I'd say PS is not a NEIPA. Then again I've been told I was wrong when I stated that Heady Topper was a NEIPA.
     
  23. MNAle

    MNAle Savant (921) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    So are you with your notion of "exclusive rights"... but you knew that.

    If you can't define what a NEIPA is and what it isn't, then you also can't say I'm "wrong"... I'll admit to being an instigator, though.
     
  24. B-Stad

    B-Stad Initiate (0) May 16, 2015 Minnesota

    Maybe the better question to pose for debate would be: What constitutes a NEIPA?
     
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  25. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Devotee (410) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey

    From What I have consumed: (no particular order)
    I would beak it down to the following:


    The Pioneer
    1. The Alchemist : In many respects they are one of the main reasons you even created this topic in the first place! And deserves to be on any top 3 NEIPA list - Specifically for Heady Topper

    The Surprise
    2 .Industrial Arts: For one reason alone. Wrench! I still can not fathom that that beer sees the light of any sort of distribution at all! And the very fact that a beer of that quality can be purchased on a "Dry Shelf" is worthy of my ranking. - Specifically Wrench but also Torque Wrench

    The Local
    3.Magnify: Despite having their up and downs as a "Newer" brewery they have created some world class amazing NE style IPA. And for that reason they get a spot on my list. Specifically for Peak of Ripeness, Maine Event, and Momentary Master

    Honorable Mentions: Equilibrium and TreeHouse
    But I dont get their beers nearly enough to constitute a ranking.
     
  26. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    How am I wrong by trying to solicit an opinion?

    And yeah, you’re an instigating motha fucka! (Stern show reference)
     
  27. Samlover55

    Samlover55 Zealot (584) Oct 8, 2015 New York
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    I was going to reply any brewery, but this is just as good. Should only ten breweries be able to brew Bourbon Barrel Aged Stouts?
     
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  28. Zaphog

    Zaphog Poo-Bah (2,211) Sep 23, 2011 Michigan

    He's basically just asking which 10 breweries do you think make the best NEIPA.
     
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  29. islay

    islay Initiate (185) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    I'll point out that pseudoSue debuted in 2011, before Trillium or Tree House opened and before anybody referred to a "New England IPA," although not necessarily before anybody referred to a "Vermont IPA," meaning those NEIPA-predecessors such as certain beers from The Alchemist, Hill Farmstead, and Lawson's Finest. I would call pseudoSue a distinctively Midwestern independent evolution of the same cloudy and suspended-particulated subset of modern West Coast IPAs and APAs that inspired those Vermont breweries and distinctive more for grassiness and onion notes than "juiciness" (albeit with substantial batch variation). Toppling Goliath certainly influenced Tree House via its David collaboration in Tree House's early years, but, if anything, Toppling Goliath's recent output generally has leaned drier and more bitter than it did in its days that predated NEIPAs. pseudoSue need not be retconned into the NEIPA substyle.
     
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  30. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,064) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Thanks for understanding.
     
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  31. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,897) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    One is exclusive, not ten. I'd pick TG.
     
  32. B-Stad

    B-Stad Initiate (0) May 16, 2015 Minnesota

    I appreciate the thoughtful response. Would you consider this a NEIPA? Have you ever had one?

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  33. B-Stad

    B-Stad Initiate (0) May 16, 2015 Minnesota

    I can't figure out how to attach my own image to these posts for the life of me.... Here's a link:
    https://ibb.co/iqZRrH
     
  34. Brothnellus

    Brothnellus Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2017 Florida

    Civil Society
    Triple Crossing
    The Veil
    Aslin
    Charles Town Fermentory
    Trillium
    Tree House
    Tired Hands
    Local-ish homer pick: Southern Swells (Jax Beach)
    Random under the radar pick: Cushwa (Hagerstown)
     
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  35. LavaLite

    LavaLite Initiate (37) Dec 3, 2016 Illinois

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  36. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,385) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Equilibrium
    District 96
    Sand City
    Hill Farmstead
    River Roost
    Other Half
    Answer Brewpub
    Tree House
    Trillium
    Upper Pass
     
  37. papposilenus

    papposilenus Champion (861) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire

    The most critical characteristic which defines an NEIPA is freshness. Ideally, a proper NEIPA should be consumed within 12 hours of being harvested, will go rancid within 72 hours, and be fit for nothing but boiling sausages in after 5 days.

    So, these are the breweries whose beers I can be home on the sofa drinking within 5 hours of first exposure to oxygen...

    Hill Farmstead
    Tree House
    Foam
    Brick & Feather
    River Roost
    Bissell Brothers
    Vanished Valley
    Trillium

    Note that there are only eight. I couldn't come up with nine and ten. Other Half would have made the list but, logistically, it's difficult to be sure I can be home in time to drink it before sunset. Trillium would have been higher up the list but their cans are often as much as a week or two old! by the time I buy them. And, originally, I had Lamplighter on the list as number 9 except that I hate driving in Cambridge.

    Obviously, this list will be different for the poor benighted souls in less favoured regions of the country. I guess they can have the 9th and 10th choices I didn't use. However, since we are only concerning ourselves here with one style of beer, I have only concerned myself with the needs of one consumer of beer i.e., me.

    Since everything I have written above is so obviously and demonstrably true, and BA'ers do enjoy something to argue about, I'll throw out that the Alchemist doesn't really make NEIPA's. Heady Topper is not an NEDIPA in the same sense that a velociraptor is not a bird - it is the precursor to, the ancestor of, if you will, the contemporary NEIPA but is not one itself. Focal Banger and Crusher are almost NEIPA's, and I'm struggling for an evolutionary analogy here and not coming up with one.
     
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  38. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Poo-Bah (1,543) Sep 14, 2014 New York

    Maybe Focal Banger and Heady Crusher are the Homo Erectus of NEIPA?
     
  39. eLMsITYbUM

    eLMsITYbUM Initiate (86) Oct 24, 2007 New Hampshire
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    No, because I think everyone should be able to try to replicate a style. The market decides what stays on the rotation or what ultimately gets the axe. Also, I would say for every 100 poor reviews of any beer there are 10 glowing reviews for the same exact thing. Let them brew what they want. Remember, tastes can vary greatly.
     
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  40. ThinBlueLine

    ThinBlueLine Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 New Jersey

    I would not want a list to exist or be enforced. Because there are a lot that are not on the list that make beers comparable (and sometimes stand up better) than those who make the cut. Why limit this when the next best thing might come from an upstart or smaller, less known brewery.
     
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