Pliny Pronounced Wrong?

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  1. sammyg832

    sammyg832 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2013 Arizona

    My dad recently asked about my trip to California and I told him that I bought a bunch of Pliny the Elder. We are from England and my Dad studied latin as a kid. He told me Pliny (Pli-ni) is pronounced Pli-ne.

    Either way it is a fantastic beer and you can call it anything haha. Maybe we all including myself have been pronouncing it wrong? I never thought twice about it. Just thought it was interesting because I looked it up and he is correct
     
  2. dwmetsfan13

    dwmetsfan13 Initiate (177) Jul 22, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I've always pronounced it Ply Knee. That way it rhymes with piney, which is how it tastes. Is that correct based on your understanding?
     
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  3. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (374) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    The Elder and Younger beers' names rhyme with shiny.

    The Elder and Younger historical figures' names rhyme with skinny.
     
  4. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Meyvn (1,060) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey

    /close_thread
     
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  5. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Zealot (525) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    In the words of Mitch Hedburg… Oh Man can't I just have some:wink:
     
  6. sammyg832

    sammyg832 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2013 Arizona

    Agreed! Silly thread post I know. Since the beers were named after historical figures I thought it would be correct to name them that way.

    Either way it's not a big deal to me cos I love the beers :slight_smile:
     
  7. sammyg832

    sammyg832 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2013 Arizona

    I agree. It is a very piney beer. Would be interesting to contact Russian River on this.
     
  8. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Hey - when I brought this up several months ago I almost got chased out of here with torches and pitchforks! Why does this guy get off the hook so easy?
     
  9. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    There's footage of the brewmaster (or president or whatever) pronouncing it 'Plie-knee'. I happen to believe they were ignorant of the proper way to pronounce the historical figures name, but regardless, that is now how the beer's name is pronounced. Plie-knee like piney.
     
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  10. sammyg832

    sammyg832 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2013 Arizona

    I was scared about posting this. I really like the beer and it never dawned on me that it had been pronounced wrong until I talked to my Dad. He is very English and is super strict on pronouncing things wrong. Which I do all the time!! :slight_frown:
     
  11. sammyg832

    sammyg832 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2013 Arizona

    We should contact Vinnie Cilurzo. I'm sure the "Pli-knee" pronunciation may have to do with the piney character to the beer
     
  12. BrahptimusPrime

    BrahptimusPrime Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2014 Connecticut

    We do not need to bring ink and paper... in to this.
     
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  13. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (374) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I can imagine they may also have just decided to just go with that pronunciation because that's how the bulk of American English speakers would pronounce it. Not many people get a classical education these days and you don't want to be too pedantic toward your customer base.
     
  14. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,708) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not so much silly as redundant. Do a search, question's been driven into the ground.
     
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  15. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Champion (815) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Or, with all due respect to Vinnie, perhaps he just didn't know the correct way to pronounce it, and since this doesn't get talked about a lot more often, neither, does it seem, do most people who haven't (like your father) studied Latin. I think after the fact the similarity to "piney" makes it worth keeping the 'wrong' pronunciation, and treating it like a play on words. I will, however, start saying the names of the historical figures correctly when I tell someone about those beers.
     
  16. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (1,910) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    Proper names are always correctly pronounced they way the "owner" of the name says they are.

    There is a MN town just southwest of the Twin Cities Metro proper that is named New Prague.

    It is NOT pronounced "New Prog", like the Czech city, even though the town celebrates its Czech heritage.

    It is properly pronounced "New Praig" (long a, like Haig). Why is that the proper pronunciation? Because that is how the locals pronounce it, that's why.
     
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  17. neverenoughhops

    neverenoughhops Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2009 California

    vinnie cilurzo pronounces it ply-knee. i will defer to him.
     
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  18. sammyg832

    sammyg832 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2013 Arizona

    And I agree. He's the master of the brew and that is how it should be
     
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