Pliny the elder recipe

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by slayerhellfire, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Dec 24, 2009 New York

    Just wondering if anyone has this recipe for a 5 gallon batch most of the ones I saw are for 6 gallons. Looking for all grain Pliny the elder, anyone brew this befor any tips or comments please fill me in, thanks!
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Take each ingredient and multiply the amount by 0.833.
     
  3. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    If you're trying to actually end up with 5 gal, you probably want to shoot for the 6 gal batch. You gotta account for all that beer you'll lose to the hops.
     
  4. Jettpower

    Jettpower Feb 9, 2007 California

    And beware that this recipe is written for 6 gallons for a reason. You lose a fair bit of beer due to all the hops used throughout the process. So if you start with 5 gallons, you'll be left with closer to 4 gallons worth of finished beer.
     
  5. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Dec 24, 2009 New York

    Yeah I didn't think of that my fermenters are just the standard 5 gallon plastic buckets would that be ok, I figure after a 90 min boil it would be
     
  6. jokelahoma

    jokelahoma May 9, 2004 Missouri

    I'm curious how you're fermenting a 5 gallon batch in a 5 gallon bucket. You must lose a lot to blowoff, no?
     
  7. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Dec 20, 2006 New York

    The standard "Ale Pail" type buckets generally used in homebrewing are more like 6.5 gallons, are they not?
     
  8. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Dec 24, 2009 New York

    Yes that's what I ment to say, the standard is 6.5 gallons most of them. I guess I can do a 6 gallon batch but would need a blow off tube connected
     
  9. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Dec 24, 2009 New York

    The reason I bring this up is that my last batch I had more than 5 gallons in there it went crazy and was foaming all over the place until I used a blow off tube, it caught me off gaurd
     
  10. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    The point we were trying to make is that, if you use the 6 gal recipe, you should have 6 gal of wort at the end of the boil. However, a good proportion of that will be absorbed by the hops. Odds are that you will only end up with about 5 gal of clear wort going into your fermenter.
     
  11. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Dec 24, 2009 New York

    Ok yeah got it I will remember that when I brew this, thanks
     
  12. ACESFULL

    ACESFULL Sep 13, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    The way 6 gallon batches work are as follows.

    6 gal - after boil
    5.5 - in fermenter (leave 1/2 gal in kettle trub/hops)
    5 gal in bottles/kegs (leave 1/2 gal in fermenter yeast slurry)

    Easypeasy!
     
  13. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Dec 20, 2006 New York

    What a waste of beer.
     
  14. ACESFULL

    ACESFULL Sep 13, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Well personally I dont like hot & cold break (protein break) nor do I like yeast slurry in my beers.
     
  15. TheGordianKnot

    TheGordianKnot Apr 2, 2010 Tennessee

    A half gallon though? I usually just rack off the slurry while slowly tipping the bucket to get the most I possible can into bottling bucket/keg. I'll agree with Homebrew that seems like a bit of a waste...
     
  16. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    None of us do. Though, that amount of loss from the kettle and from the fermenter are a bit extreme. I typically don't lose that much except with my Pumpkin Ale. In fact with my most recent batch, an IIPA, brewed on Wednesday, I only lost maybe a pint from the kettle.
     
  17. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Well personally I can avoid getting break and slurry in my final product without having to dump a gallon of beer for every 5 that I package. With decent technique I find no need to be so wasteful.
     
  18. velosuds

    velosuds Mar 14, 2009 Oregon

    "Waste not, want not." Never truer than when about beer.
     
  19. mklinger

    mklinger Feb 20, 2009 North Carolina

    I totally agree, although I will say that when I brew a Pliny type recipe with close to 1 lb of hops, I change my way of thinking & brew 6 gallons to get 5. With this much hops, you can't help but lose close to 1/2 gallon going into the fermentor (unless you want all that hop muck going into your fermentor). Same thing going into the keg -- when I dry hop with 3-5 oz of hops, I can't help but lose a bunch of beer. Normally I brew just over 5 & get 5, but not with the Pliny clone.
     
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  20. mondegreen

    mondegreen Nov 4, 2009 Georgia

    I brewed one of the published Pliny clones last month. I put 5.25 gallons into primary and bottled 4 gallons after dry hopping. I didn't think I'd lose that much to the dry hops/slurry, but I did.
     
  21. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Jun 8, 2010 California

  22. jtingue

    jtingue Apr 24, 2010 New York

  23. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    The grain bill was found to be wrong for that one and a correction was published later. I don't know if the .pdf was corrected. The one on beerdujour.com listed above is correct, and is also straight from Vinnie.

    On the BN, Vinnie Cilurzo has stated that he uses hop extracts in PtE for the bittering additions. This is to get more yield of wort, as less is lost to the hops.
     
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