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Pliny the Elder vs. Hopslam

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BoJangles, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. BoJangles

    BoJangles Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012

    I would rather drink pliny

    Which do you guys prefer?
  2. SageO

    SageO Initiate (198) Jul 13, 2010 California
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    As someone who has access to PtE on a regular basis (I work almost next to O’brien’s) and just had a Hopslam last night, I’d say they’re surprisingly different. PtE doesn’t have a lot of booze, and has more floral characteristics, while Hopslam is a touch boozy, definitely more resiny, and the honey makes a huge difference. They’re different enough that I have to say I like them both for what they are.
  3. johnnyboy76

    johnnyboy76 Devotee (416) Nov 20, 2010 Oregon

    I literally just had hopslam 2 days ago, in a trade from my bro in MN, and had the elder and the younger today at my local pub and bottle shop. I have to say, the younger wasn't all that. Great but not worth the hype. I've always loved the elder. And my my first sampling of hopslam was a good experience, but nothing too crazy. Hopslam was really smooth without a ton of aroma, and the elder was really smooth with a ton of aroma. IMO, I think the elder edges out hopslam.
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  4. Pittsky

    Pittsky Initiate (0) May 28, 2009 Florida
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    the pliny i had was great but not any better to me then abrasive, maharaja, hopslam etc....and as someone stated, i agree, they are quite a bit different.

    hopslam without a ton of aroma? you got a cold bro?
  5. Hophead717

    Hophead717 Zealot (572) Oct 21, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Hopslam and Pliny are very different beers, but I prefer Pliny.
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  6. TicoCali

    TicoCali Disciple (346) Jul 25, 2010 California

    Both great.

    If hopslam was year round and I had access to it like PtE, I would probably get it as much as I get Pliny...

    With that said I like PtE better.
  7. johnnyboy76

    johnnyboy76 Devotee (416) Nov 20, 2010 Oregon

    Nope. After PtE, Boneyard hop venom, heady topper, and surly abrasive. . . . Hopslam doesn't really do it for me. Glad it does it for you
  8. chanokokoro

    chanokokoro Champion (835) Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

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  9. BrohamidAli

    BrohamidAli Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2011 Illinois

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  10. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

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  11. LaneMeyer

    LaneMeyer Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 California

    Pabst Blue Ribbon in the 16oz can. Wait, what are we talking about..?
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  12. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (687) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I'd drink Heady or Dreadnaught if I could over either. But Pliny easily over Hopslam. My case at least, since on tap it was far better.
  13. Pahn

    Pahn Meyvn (1,456) Dec 2, 2009 New York
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    i like pliny better, but they're both great.

    will try heady topper soon. at this point, PtE is the best DIPA i've had, in terms of nailing the style and doing everything the way i like it. strangely, in terms of total enjoyment, i actually prefer DFH's squall IPA to pliny. pliny is hoppier, has a better "IPA mouthfeel", and is better made from a more "objective" standpoint (cleaner flavors, better feel like i said, more sensible ingredient combo), but in the end i'd rather drink the messier squall IPA. something about its flavor combo just pleases my palate.

    edit: hopslam's problems: bit too hot, bit too sweet. really delicious hop flavor though.
  14. beerbiatchMD

    beerbiatchMD Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2011 Maine

    Pliny, maybe Lunch or 90 min next. Agree with Brohamid's ZD shout out, but isn't that a pale ale?
  15. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (687) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    It's a pale ale, but it's a beer that could be an IPA. That thing is hoppy and decently bitter, and most importantly delicious.
  16. MexicanSkittel

    MexicanSkittel Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2010 California

    I'm a sucker for Pliney Fresh on tap, love Heady outta can, and Abrasive from a can into a glass. Haven't had hopslam "yet" but when someone wants to send me some I will re-write this response. :slight_smile:
  17. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,483) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    If both had an everyday kinda availability PTE quite easily,
  18. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I personally do not think one is better than the other. Both top tier beers. If I had regular access to both of them why would I choose?
  19. HopSlamHokie

    HopSlamHokie Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2010 Virginia

    Definitely PtE over Hopslam for me. Found this year's Hopslam to be completely underwhelming. That said, is there a way to change your username without registering again? ha.
  20. malty

    malty Crusader (757) Dec 16, 2003 Michigan

    Really? People have different preferences? Now I'm confused.
  21. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I just have not told people what they are suppose to like yet. I have been enjoying watching the confusion of people trying to figure it out for themselves. I will send a memo out soon, should get everyone on the same page.
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  22. chanokokoro

    chanokokoro Champion (835) Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    How very true. I've always wondered why there is this incessant need to always crown "the best" brew in a specific category. I think it's fairly easy to point out which brews belong in the top tier. Let's just all appreciate each one for what it is...
  23. chanokokoro

    chanokokoro Champion (835) Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    Yes, Zombie Dust is an APA.
  24. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    Everybody likes trophies.
  25. leedorham

    leedorham Crusader (701) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    I'll save people some time here:
    • "They're very different beers"
    • "Pliny is more balanced"
    • "Hopslam is too hot"
    • "Hopslam is more balanced"
    • "I can't get Pliny"
    • "I can't get Hopslam"
    • "Zombie Dust is the bestest ever!"
    • "You can get Henry Weinhard's IPA for $4.99 and it tastes exactly the same"
    • "Surly!"
    • "Citra!"
    • "I live in Santa Rosa and I'm drinking PTY with all the leaders of the free world as I type this."
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  26. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,719) Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    In the words of Charlie Sheen, "Winning"

    (PtE for me)

  27. zac16125

    zac16125 Poo-Bah (1,787) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    I've had PtE 3 times and Homplam more times than I can count. I would drink Pliny more if I could get ahold of it, and maybe if I had access to it in bottles I would think differently (all 3 times with Pliny was on draft), but as it is I have to say I think Hopslam is significantly better. Both have great aromas, but IMO Hopslam is the best smelling beer in the world, and Hopslams flavor profile is far superior (the citrus hops and honey sweetness are out of this world). I will add that if your only experience with Hopslam is this year,I could see how you would disagree as this years batch seems to be pretty hit or miss, with significant varietion between batches (there is another thread talking about it somewhere here).
  28. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    I like PtE better. I think hopslam is a great beer, but not a great IIPA
  29. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Depends on freshness, draft vs. bottle, etc. Both vary a lot in bottle, especially over time.

    Under ideal circumstances of say, fresh draft, then I like Hopslam.
  30. 33nickadams

    33nickadams Disciple (310) Apr 12, 2010 Michigan

    Both very different, but I prefer Hopslam. Then again, I'm from Michigan.
  31. ColonelW

    ColonelW Initiate (135) Mar 11, 2009 Pennsylvania

    In my humble opinion, PTE is the king of beers. Heady Topper is very close in terms of a rating, but is so completely different in taste, that it can't really be compared. Hopslam is not even close to either though it is a damn good beer.
  32. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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    If you give me fresh Pliny, I can compare. The freshest Pliny Ive had is like 15-20 days old. I had Hopslam quickly after it hit stores this year. If fresh Pliny tastes like Juicy orange and lemon, then it might just win.
  33. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (3,399) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    both are great 2ipa's but no comparison between the two
  34. craigo19

    craigo19 Disciple (331) Oct 12, 2009 Michigan
    Supporter Beer Trader

    Currently drinking a Pliny that I acquired in a trade for Hopslam. They are both great IIPAs, but Hopslam takes it for me.
  35. philly224

    philly224 Aspirant (213) Jan 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    They are pretty equal for me. I might give Pliny the slight edge but Hopslam is one of my favorite beers.

    Nugget Nectar is right with them for me as well.
  36. LambicKing

    LambicKing Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Germany

    I've had Pliny several times...and while it's excellent, I find the mouthfeel a bit thin for my liking, if I'm allowed to be picky here. I prefer more "chewable" DIPAs and a bit more citrusy vice piney. Heady tops (no pun intended) the list for me, but I actually prefer Hopslam over Pliny (I know, *gasp*). Perhaps I need to have both on tap to really judge. EDIT: and I'm actually drinking PtE right now.
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  37. Pelican5

    Pelican5 Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2012 California
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    Just had my first Hopslam, ever. Have had PtE many times.

    Hopslam seems a bit hot and doesnt quite have the depth of PtE. Don't get me wrong its a wonderful beer with great aroma and will enjoy again.

    I'll take PtE 5 times to 1.
  38. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (957) Mar 17, 2009 Washington
    Beer Trader

    You forgot "Vermont makes better IPAs"
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  39. jsilva

    jsilva Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2009 Massachusetts

    With emphasis on the plural. I could name 5 off the top of my head from 3 diff breweries that either pte or hopslam dont hold a candle too.
  40. Heatwave33

    Heatwave33 Devotee (456) Sep 13, 2011 Florida
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    Never had them side by side. But from what I remember Pliny didn't blow me away like everyone told me it would. Hopslam went way pass my expectations. I'd love to do a side by side though :slight_smile:
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