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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by jmmy3, Jan 10, 2013.
I'll say this.......... HT has ruined dipas and ipas for me. Nothing stacks up.
It was pretty decent, but definitely the biggest letdown of the beers I actively sought out for trade thus far. Maybe it's different on the west coast where it's fresher, but that doesn't mean shit to me in VA.
And I'm not an east coast HT homer. HT isn't in my top 3
Heady the Elder
I've had neither, but I wonder how Citra Ninja would stack up against HT. I had it fresh a couple weeks ago and was completely blown away. I found it better than Zombie Dust and that's one of my favorite beers right now.
If there's anything overrated in the world right now, it's Zombie Dust. Arctic Panzer Wolf is better, IMO, and Dreadnaught is heavenly.
Never having had HT, I'll go with Abrasive.
I need to revisit Dreadnaught, it's been a while. The ZD price point is so nice though!
Oh Heyyyyyy subjectivity! How's everything goin'?
Without subjectivity there is no point for these forums. You are a boner.
Pliny is an awesome brew. So is Abrasive. And Heady.
This happens. You get too excited on the hype and you over think the beer. Expecting perfection, and not settling for greatness. give this another try and just enjoy it. Cheers!
Tad Schwimmer is back! My faith in mankind is renewed. I missed ya from the old BA days. I see yer accent has grown a little thicker with the passage of time.
You have to be the millionth person to make this thread. Congrats ha.
It's a great beer but it's old hat for a lot of BAs.
I like Blind Pig ages better, but I still love the hype behind Pliny. I think it's one of the things that first got me into researching the hard to find beers. And one of the first to make me realize I won't always like the hard to find ones! Which is great since I save some money and time now I totally understand why it's highly rated, it's been around for a while, and it's relatively safe now.
Pliny is diviney.
Yeah, I think that Pliny really has a hard time standing up to the new guys but undoubtedly paved the way for craft beer as we know it. Still a fine DIPA, but I wouldn't put it anywhere near fresh Heady, Abrasive, Dreadnaught, Lawsons (triple play, hopzilla, double sunshine), or any of the HF DIPA's. Always happy to see this one as an extra.
Also it might be a style difference. I really don't care for the overly piney and resinous west coast style IPA's from RR, Alpine, etc. Rather, I prefer the east coast style that puts citrus, mango, grapefruit, and puckering crispness on full display.
However, the jury is still out until I get the chance to try some of Alpine's growler only beer, and Kern Citra.
I love reading "Pliny is balanced"....
3 years ago Pliny was the unbalanced hop bomb that many BAs craved and I had been told that if I want balance I should drink something else.... Times they are a changin'.
Citra>Pliny>Abrasive>Heady>Double Jack. That is my top five. I think the hispter pliny fans have jumped ship because they liked it before it was cool, now they moved on, I expect the same type of people to start hating on Heady Topper. No matter what is your interests, there are people who will not like it because it is the top dog.
It's for your health
IMO HT and Abrasive are very close to equal, but different. Then comes Pliny and Alpines and Citra. I'd like to revisit Kern Citra ultra fresh, but I don't have a Ca contact. All I can say that ultra fresh HT and Abrasive are amazing, and clearly at the top, but that doesn't diminish Pliny's greatness either, fresh Pliny is one hell of a beer, but the newer brews just upped the stakes in the DIPA war.