Prairie Dawgs - Members Only Club

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by needMIbeer, May 7, 2017.

  1. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Reposted from Prairie Artisan Ales Blog

    May 5th, 2017
    We are excited to announce Prairie Dawgs, an exclusive member only club. Prairie Dawgs will have exclusive and guaranteed access to some of our best barrel aged stouts long term sour ales, and other amazing beers. Beer release times and allocation limits will vary depending on the maturity of the beer. Each Prairie Dawg membership does include 16 bottles throughout the course of the year. When available, members will have the exclusive opportunity to purchase additional bottles. Members will also have access to private brewery events and the Prairie Dawgs Facebook group. The total number of memberships will be limited. Prairie Dawgs will have the first option to renew for 2018-2019. See below for a list of member benefits, details, and FAQ. If you need anything else, please email us at membership@prairieales.com.

    Member Benefits
    • 6-8 Prairie Dawg member only releases per year
    • 16 bottles, spread among the 6-8 releases included with membership fee
    • Option to purchase any unclaimed bottles of Prairie Dawg releases
    • Option to purchase full allotment of publicly available brewery only releases
    • Access to special member only events throughout the year
    • Right to renew your membership for 2018-2019
    • Special Prairie Dawg merchandise
    Details
    • Pick up dates will be announced two weeks prior to available and will remain open for 1 month.
    • After the conclusion of that window any remaining bottles will be offered to other members, used for special events, or sold for on premise consumption at a Prairie location
    • Pick up locations may be announced at any Prairie location
    • Any Prairie Dawg may designate a trustee to pick up their beer
    • All members or trustees must be 21 years of age with valid identification
    • Membership benefits do not transfer to trustees
    • Sales tax will be charged on all memberships and bottle sales
    • We are not able to ship beer to members
    Frequently Asked Questions
    1. What size bottles will you use? We plan to use our standard bottle sizes (12 and 16.9 oz.) but that may vary depending on the release.
    2. Where can I pick my beer up from? You will have to pick your bottles from the brewery where they were produced. At first this means all the beers will be in Krebs, OK. As the year progress releases may occur at OKC or Tulsa. We will notify all members well in advance of the pick up location.
    3. Do I have to pick up my allotment of public release beers on the day of the release? No, we will hold your reservation of these beers for two week.
    4. How much will the remaining allotment of member only bottles cost? We expect to sell all reaming bottles for $12 per bottle.
    5. How many extra bottles of member only releases will I be able to buy? This will vary considerably depending on the beer. Over the course of the year we expect members to have access to extra bottles though.
    6. What beers will be included in the membership? We will not release the names and styles of each beer until closer their release window. Generally speaking the beers will be big stouts, double barrel stouts and long aged sours. We will not include previously publicly available beers (Pirate Bomb, Pirate Paradise, Barrel Aged Christmas Bomb, etc.) in the the membership.
    7. When will the first beer be released? We expect the first beer to be ready around July/August 2017. The exact schedule will be determined by the aging of the beer.
    8. Can I change my trustee? Sure, just email membership@prairieales.com, use the subject line “Trustee Change” and include the Trustee’s name, phone number and address in the body of the email.
    9. Do trustees have to have to be members? No, they do not.
    10. How long will my membership last? Memberships will be yearlong. They will begin on the date of the first release and end 12 months later. This is expected to begin July/August 2017.
    11. What times can I pick up at the brewery? Pick up will generally be available during regular business hours. Those times vary by location. If you are uncertain you can email or call the location in question.
    12. When can I get my Prairie Dawg merchandise and what exactly will it be? Members merchandise will be available at the brewery during the first release pick up window. We will include two special glasses and at least one other piece of unique merchandise.
    13. How will members be notified about releases? Every member will receive an email announcing the beer, pick up window, and location.
    14. Can a trustee pick up for more than one member? Yes.
     
  2. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    I have to admit that I almost pulled the trigger on this myself. I've definitely enjoyed a lot more of their beers since moving to Texas and was excited about the opportunity to try some harder to acquire options. What I'm failing to understand is the math here. 16 x $12 = $192 so I guess the other $300 gets you a killer piece of merchandise? Curious to here other people thought on this..
     
  3. RedhawkPoke

    RedhawkPoke Aspirant (269) Jan 30, 2017 Oklahoma
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    Seems like the thoughts on the Oklahoma beer groups I am part of on Facebook have been mostly negative. Personally, I was excited to hear about the opportunity until I saw the price.
     
  4. WilliMo

    WilliMo Initiate (37) Jan 24, 2016 Indiana

    I thought the same. It was tempting for the stouts I'd love to try, but your math is actually realistically a little off. The reason I say this is not only do you only get those bottles, but you have absolutely no idea what styles of beer they are going to throw out. Almost everyone has a favorite style and, while they might not hate it, have some styles they just wouldn't pay top dollar for. I would pay $20 for a stout, but I don't want to pay $20 a bottle for a sour as I can take or leave them. What happens when they throw out a coconut or apricot beer and you don't like it? Money down the drain. That's why other mug clubs are not that expensive and you can just buy the bottles you want: it's a much better model for the customer.

    In the end I think it could work if you and a buddy split it to mitigate some of the risk, but I'd be surprised if someone paid $500 and felt they really got that much value for it.
     
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  5. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    There aren't really any styles I don't care for but I definitely get your point. I to am willing to pay more for certain styles. When I know something takes time and money to produce and then spends even longer sitting in barrels somewhere not generating revenue I'm a lot more willing to shell out the cash. They are already known for putting out beers that are easily $1/ounce and I've happily paid that in the past. I just think they'd be doing themselves a favor explaining what the other $300 is getting you. Especially when they've come out and stated in the post that all remaining bottles will be sold for $12/each.
     
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  6. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Zealot (571) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    Being the Prairie fanboy I am, and having attended their 3 brewery only releases, I pulled the trigger, but agree that this seems steep based on the math for th 16 bottles.

    Either way, really excited to see what they put out this year!
     
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  7. TX-Badger

    TX-Badger Poo-Bah (2,439) Jun 14, 2012 Texas

    As always, everyone has a price, this one is not for me. I'm interested to see what they release, but not THAT interested.
     
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  8. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    This Prairie Sheep club looks really cool
     
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  9. icetrauma

    icetrauma Devotee (490) Sep 7, 2004 Texas

    500? Must be a peach of hand - Doc Holliday
     
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  10. StArnoldFan

    StArnoldFan Defender (698) Dec 28, 2012 Texas

  11. TTUJohn

    TTUJohn Initiate (157) Nov 13, 2012 Texas

    Who makes new Prairie beers in general and in this set up specifically? They sold to Krebs at some point, if I am not mistaken, but they keep coming out with "new" beers and I am curious if that is all the new ownership or if there is still a relationship with the original guys
     
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  12. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Wonder when Prairie's AbInBev announcement will come? This year or next?
     
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  13. texasalec

    texasalec Initiate (69) Jul 18, 2013 Texas

    Not going to lie, the BA stouts aspect is really cool. I am going to stick with my American Solera membership for now. If the beers being released are insane, I might go for the next round of memberships.
     
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  14. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    I honestly think they make great beer. Their stouts are maybe the best off-the-shelf you can buy. Just their damn prices... and this club is an obvious rip.
     
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  15. Narthax

    Narthax Crusader (743) Mar 23, 2014 Texas
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    I went this route. Hoping for high caliber stouts and they ability to get unclaimed bottles if something is good.
     
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  16. ElChuques

    ElChuques Initiate (92) Oct 8, 2014 Arkansas

    I still don't get how that makes any sense. $30 per 12oz/500ml bottle and the opportunity to purchase remaining bottles? It better be a ton of super awesome merch that comes with it. How do you split merch with a friend?
     
  17. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    You take turns with your friend wearing the different t-shirts and merch items while Prairie counts your money.
     
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  18. Narthax

    Narthax Crusader (743) Mar 23, 2014 Texas
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    I dont really give two shits about the merch. I figure I'll give it a shot this year and if it sucks, I'll walk away. Im hoping for good trade bait as well, something thst oklahoma lacks in.

    I also agree that it seems way too expensive.
     
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  19. ElChuques

    ElChuques Initiate (92) Oct 8, 2014 Arkansas

    I was only mentioning the merch since they have admitted they will sell unclaimed member bottles for $12. That makes the 16 promised member bottles worth around $200. I figured that's a lot of shirts, hats, and glasses to make up the difference. I guess I could subtract the value of being allowed to spend even more money on those unclaimed member bottles.

    Basically pointing out there is no way this shakes out to be a good deal. Then again, pricing has never really been PAA's strong suit.
     
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  20. Techichi

    Techichi Devotee (485) Sep 25, 2012 Texas

    I would love to hear back from anyone who participates in this after it's all over. Let us know if you thought it was worth it.
     
  21. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Zealot (571) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    This! ^^^

    I bought the membership and agree it's very steep relative to the bottles count included. However, its more than just merch as they've already hinted at a tasting event in Krebs.

    From the trading aspect, there is very little in the way of 'trade bait' in our market that commands a premium and is well known/respected as Prairie (other than say JK). Prairie is one of those exceptions. Whether it's their shelf beer, or their brewery only stuff, I can only imagine this prairie dawg stuff will command a greater premium when considering the raririty/exclusivity factor.

    While I'm not going into the membership planning to trade everything off, it will allow me to ship a few bottles for some big wants.

    To each his own.

    Cheers
     
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  22. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Despite my feelings about the price and where the other $300 goes my curiosity got the best of me and I just bought this. I'm interested to see what the releases end up being and how many bottles of each are produced.
     
  23. Narthax

    Narthax Crusader (743) Mar 23, 2014 Texas
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    New update:

    UPDATE

    August/September

    · 8/1 – Membership closes.
    · Member Only Launch – First exclusive access to the new OKC taproom prior to the grand opening. Date TBD.
    · First Release
    § Double Barrel Noir
    § Double Barrel Stout – Name TBD (This will be a new stout)

    October

    · 10/21 – Member Only Barrel Experience
    § This event will take place at the production facility in Krebs, OK.

    November/December

    · Second Release

    Spring 2018

    · Third Release
    · Member Only Experience

    Member Only Merch

    · Two Dawgs glasses
    · Original, signed and numbered, Colin Healey work of art made exclusively for Prairie Dawg members.


    Ø Each release is currently planned to feature at least two beers.
    Ø Dawgs are allowed a +1 to each Member Only Experience.
    Ø All additional Prairie Dawg beers will be available for purchase by members at $12 each.
    Ø Any PD beers not purchased will strictly only be used for on sight purchase and consumption or special events.
    Ø Brewery only released beers will be available for purchase at the initial set bottle limits per release. They will be $12 each.
    Ø Distributed beers will be available for purchase at up to 6 bottles per beer brand. They will be $10 each.
    Ø All beers must be pre-purchased through the webstore at the time of release.
    Ø We will house all purchased beer for 1 year per member.
     
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  24. xxbassplayerxx

    xxbassplayerxx Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2016 Kentucky

    Double Barrel Noir :grimacing:
     
  25. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Zealot (571) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    Since they came out with the initial membership info, they (prairie) definitely took notice and revamped the details and listened to those making suggestions, i.e. buying and holding normal distro options + brewery only releases,

    $500 is a lot of money, but I'm stoked to take this for a test run in year 1!
     
  26. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Double Barrel Noir definitely sounds tasty and I'll be curious to see what the second initial beer ends up being.

    Anybody else in the DFW area end up joining this?
     
  27. rmpic82

    rmpic82 Devotee (421) Jan 27, 2017 Kansas
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    In. I'm so excited, I'm so scared...

    Holding bottles for the full year was big for me. Even if I don't need that long a runway, I like having that safety net...and I'm sure it is a lot more to manage for Prairie.
     
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  28. JPick

    JPick Initiate (172) Sep 7, 2013 Missouri
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    I'm with everyone else here that says this is way too expensive, BUT I will say that for an out-of-towner like myself, the fact that they'll do the following does make it more palatable:

    1. Hold the bottles for a full year

    2. Give access to brewery-only releases (which I wouldn't be able to land without membership)

    3. Give access to public releases (which are difficult to land locally and would be limited to one or two probably vs. the limit of 6 they're offering with membership.)

    So yes, we are paying $200 for the included bottles and $300 for merchandise (don't care) and access to every beer Prairie produced for a full year (do care, and this is huge).

    Still overpriced, but if you split it with a friend like I did, it's $150 for access to everything. Not terrible.
     
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  29. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    I still don't see the upside here, even with the updated info. Different strokes...

    Do you live in TX? Your avatar says so. As far as trade bait, even if you were just concerned about that... JK is a better option imo. Far cheaper/easier (and more enjoyable environment?) than this and stuff like Spon and its variants can land top 10-20 BA beers, even if it takes multiple bottles.
     
  30. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    The same things ultimately put me over the edge as well. I'm wondering if the members only events with +1 will have a cost to them and if so how much. I'm also assuming the bottle counts for club releases will be similar to what Pirate Paradise was and that was a fairly sought after beer. Not that I intend to trade my share but having access to good tradable beer without having to drive down to Austin and stand in line sounds like a nice perk.
     
  31. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Zealot (571) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    Notice my initial post said ...'other than say JK'. Having traded both, I've gotten some big wants with both Prairie and JK stuff so it's hard to say, but they're in the same category and totally agree with you that the JK environment is better.
     
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  32. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Ah sorry missed that. The new perks are cool I admit, but the trek + price just seem so crazy to me considerring most of the buyers I'm betting are TX.
     
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  33. brock125

    brock125 Initiate (162) Apr 21, 2011 Texas
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    I disagree with the part about JK being cheaper OR easier to get. Maybe that's true if you live in Austin but that's about it. The Prairie releases in Krebs have all been smooth and easy and the beer has been plentiful. $12-13 per bottle for brewery only BA releases is a good price to me. Not having to drive to Austin is worth it even if the price was double. Don't get me wrong, Austin is awesome and the scenery is great but the traffic makes me want to self harm. I think Prairie is more valued in the trade market too. I know I've been able to trade non-brewery only BA stuff for out of market, hard to get BA stouts rather easily. Hopefully that continues.
     
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  34. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Where in TX do you live? For the majority of the population: Houston, Dallas, Austin, JK is easier than driving to Oklahoma for brewery only releases is all I meant.
     
  35. brock125

    brock125 Initiate (162) Apr 21, 2011 Texas
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    I'm in Dallas. It's a little over 2 hours to Krebs, OK. There is never an issue with traffic and there aren't idiots all over the road (I know....that's hard to believe considering it's OK).
     
  36. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    I'm a firm believer that Texans are the worst drivers ever and I lived in the Baltimore/DC area prior to living here. I'm closer to Fort Worth and I'd have to agree the drive to Oklahoma doesn't seem as painful.
     
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  37. mig100

    mig100 Meyvn (1,411) Aug 3, 2014 Texas
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    Ok guys guess I'm wrong. Pay that $500 per year!
     
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  38. Narthax

    Narthax Crusader (743) Mar 23, 2014 Texas
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    If you feel you are missing out on idiots driving in Oklahoma, feel free to visit up in OKC anytime.
     
  39. rmpic82

    rmpic82 Devotee (421) Jan 27, 2017 Kansas
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    Idiots are everywhere, drivers and otherwise. So are opinions.

    Idiotic to join a $500 beer club membership like me, or idiotic NOT to. I tend to fall in the middle of all this crap. In the end, we're all probably right to a degree.
     
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  40. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Crusader (732) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    After doing the math for what I was paying for Preservation Society with the quarterly membership fee and all of the shipping I am even more comfortable with this. Yes it is expensive but craft beer is undoubtedly a luxury item and not a necessity.
     
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